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Irritating pronounciation

566 replies

percheron67 · 04/08/2018 23:32

I have just seen the Tesco steak ad and wish that the woman talking would not use a glottal stop in the middle of words. Perhaps this is regional but it sounds very lazy.

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longwayoff · 06/08/2018 15:11

Expensively educated politicians trying out glottal stops infuriate me. Tony Blair's men of the people did it a lot but not exclusively, also heard from some of Cameron's bunch.

theymademejoin · 06/08/2018 15:25

@PuppyMonkey - And while we're at it, Siobhan is pronounced - Shi-vonn" NOT "Shi-vorn."

No it's not. It's pronounced Shu-vawn.

SisterNotCisTerf · 06/08/2018 15:30

I love the Oyrish accent (Irish)

Which one?

longwayoff · 06/08/2018 15:33

Scollops? Or Scallops?

VickyEadie · 06/08/2018 15:54

Scollops are slices of potato dipped in batter and fried.

Scallops are shellfish.

longwayoff · 06/08/2018 16:17

? Both are scallops.Pronounced scollops

ThisIsntMeHonestGuv · 06/08/2018 16:39

Scollops is one way to say it, but scallops is also correct pronunciation.

I say scallops.

CountFosco · 06/08/2018 16:57

As to the putting in of Rs - it's not that people are putting in an R, it's that people differ in how they pronounce A. Thus how I pronounce A in bath sounds like how someone else might pronounce barth. Its a subtle but important difference in perspective.

The majority of English speakers in the world have rhotic accents. So when you write 'ar' they read 'a-rrrrr' not 'awww'. In other words not a subtle difference, a great big 'those words sound nothing alike' difference. Stop using 'ar' when you mean awww and the confusion will disappear.

SenecaFalls · 06/08/2018 17:03

The majority of English speakers in the world have rhotic accents. So when you write 'ar' they read 'a-rrrrr' not 'awww'. In other words not a subtle difference, a great big 'those words sound nothing alike' difference. Stop using 'ar' when you mean awww and the confusion will disappear.

Yes, use some other method to broaden or elongate an "a" sound. There are a lot of rhotic speakers on MN. We pronounce those "r" sounds.

foxtiger · 06/08/2018 18:34

Stop using 'ar' when you mean awww and the confusion will disappear.

If you don't want to indicate the long A sound by "ar," I think "ah" is a better way to represent it than "awww." I have a non-rhotic accent, and I use a very different vowel sound in, for example, "drama" (ah sound" than "trauma" (aw sound). I'd find it very unusual if someone pronounced drama with an aw sound.

Kingkiller · 06/08/2018 18:46

Haven't rtft, but I presume someone must surely have sorted out the 'r' problem by page 14? It comes up on soooo many MN threads.

People who say "I pronounce almond as armond" are people with non-rhotic accents like me (i.e. most non-Scottish, non-Irish and non-American English speakers). Because we do not make an actual 'r' sound in words like arm and barn. We just make a long Ah sound. So 'armond' for us is the exact equivalent of writing 'ahmond'. No piratey arrrr sound at all.

Mousefunky · 06/08/2018 19:19

Pacifically instead of specifically.
I live in Leeds and people pronounce nearby Bradford as ‘Bratfud’.
Axed instead of asked.
Most American pronunciations of words tbh. Urbs gets me too.. as does pronouncing the H in vehicle.
Don’t like pronouncing book and look as booooook and Luke.

My DF is French and it’s definitely bag et. I did Grin at ‘French stick’.

Mousefunky · 06/08/2018 19:22

Glottal stops are rife in the Yorkshire accent so I’m just adjusted to that being normal. Tell my DC off for it though Grin. It’s twenTy not TWENNY.

MikeUniformMike · 06/08/2018 19:39

Ama-tcher for Amateur. Why?

stillamum22 · 06/08/2018 19:59

Try being Welsh, the anglicisation of very well established tradition Welsh names etc saddens me a bit - and I'm not even a Welsh speaker!!

JamPasty · 06/08/2018 20:08

Stop using 'ar' when you mean awww and the confusion will disappear.

pretty sure something's getting lost in translation her. Bath can indeed be said to sound exactly like Barth. I would pronounce "aw" like "oar", and I definitely don't mean "Boarth" when I write Barth. The PP who said "ahh" has it correct I think.

Using those pronunciation symbols I have to look up every bloody time, some people say Bath with a long "a" of the type that sounds to some people like we're putting an extra R in (bɑːθ), and some people have the short "a" (bæθ).

MikeUniformMike · 06/08/2018 20:19

Hear, hear stillamum.
Read Baby Names and expect a wave of
Manun, Bromwun, Ellun, Serrun, Bethun, Ay-ruh, Elle-Airy, Reece, Dillun, I-eye-un, Airy-Ann, Ree-Anne, Ann-wun etc
Lovely names some of them but made to sound crap.
(The equivalents are Manon, Bronwen, Elin, Seren, Bethan, Eira, Eleri, Rhys, Dylan, Ieuan, Eirian, Rhian, Anwen)
Some Welsh diphthongs are almost impossible to transcribe.

And don't get me started on BBC people talking about Plide Coom-ry. It's Plide Cum-ry).

JamPasty · 06/08/2018 20:24

[goes off to find out how to properly pronounce Welsh names]...

Sweetpea55 · 06/08/2018 20:52

What about sandwich,,is it samwidge?

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 06/08/2018 20:58

Ahh,yes worked with someone who was popping out for sang-widge

JamPasty · 06/08/2018 21:02

surely it's a hamwich?! [sorry, I'll go now]

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 06/08/2018 21:05

What about sandwich,,is it samwidge?

And do you store it in your hambag until lunchtime?

MonaLisaSimpson · 06/08/2018 21:19

A larger sample size at work today: about 60% ol-mund and 40% al-mund and I can't find a single person who doesn't pronounce the L.

Most people on this thread seem to just be getting sniffy with people who don't have the same accent or dialect as them it would seem. This is completely different to people who say Pacific instead of specific as they have a special place in hell reserved for them. And don't get me started on people that use a instead of I on facebook...

JamPasty · 06/08/2018 21:35

use a instead of I on facebook.. - what fresh hell is THAT?!

SisterNotCisTerf · 06/08/2018 21:39

There’s a horrible thing appearing on my FB feed from an area near me where people are writing “how” as “har”

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