Is food suddenly loads more expensive? Why?

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Ok. Panicking if it continues.
Just been to the local shop for tinned tuna and couldnt get it below 2 pounds. Corned beef 2. 50.
These were once cheap options for sandwiches. Now i see them as protein to be saved for an evening meal, and for sandwiches to be made from paste, marmite, soft cheese etc.
I have noticed my usual bread rolls go from 90p to 1.10.
Milk stayed the same. Squash much more money.
Is it just me? Yes i could have gone to aldi and not the corner shop but even so.
I honestly dont see how places like tesco are going to stay open if this continues, nor how anyone could afford to fill a trolley for the weeks shop.
Is it just me or is food becoming too expensive? Thats before tv license, water, petrol getting dearer each year.
How are we supposed to manage when wages dont rise at the rate of inflation?

I was being tongue in cheek.

It takes effort to cook well for less. Try some empathy before assuming people are just being lazy and making excuses.

Thanks Ajax!

It takes effort to cook well for less. Try some empathy before assuming people are just being lazy and making excuses.

This thread is ridiculous. Every thread where someone suggests supplementing your food shopping with a bit of home grown veg goes the same way. Before you know it people are coming out with ridiculousness like "you can't make a meal out of veg" and rebutting suggestions of cauliflower cheese with "what about the lactose intolerant?!" Its always the same.

Those who can and want to will, those who don't will pay the higher prices in the shops.

Believeitornot I don't live of "a few courgettes" thanks. Neither do any of the vegans or vegetarians I know.

Cloud I do think that for some people it's very difficult. Mainly because of a lack of understanding about herbs and spices! That's simplifying things obviously...but a lot of people can't think how pulses and veg could possibly taste nice.

They mostly have no idea how to cook properly.

I’ve been growing veg for years. It’s a hobby. Once you’ve accounted for pots, compost, seeds, tools etc it is no way cheaper then buying veg from the supermarket.

Efferlunt

I’ve been growing veg for years. It’s a hobby. Once you’ve accounted for pots, compost, seeds, tools etc it is no way cheaper then buying veg from the supermarket.

I agree.

Yes but lots of people already have soil in their gardens and a trowel....

Yes but lots of people already have soil in their gardens and a trowel

Hahahaha it takes more than that. What kind of soil, what direction does the garden face, rotating crops to avoid disease, do you need to supplement, what happens when the bastard slugs come and destroy the lot. Then you’d got to buy the seeds etc etc, start them off indoors in some cases. It isnt that straight forward. I know because we used to have a large vegetable patch in the garden pre children and to do it well takes mental effort.

Now my dcs are older, I grow veg again. I’ve got courgettes, tomatoes and potatoes. Next I’ll be adding broad beans as I can sow them now plus other things. But it is definitely a hobby, not a way to reduce my food bills.

My general point was that if it was so easy, then why don’t more people do it? I prefer to empathise instead of assume they’re all lazy idiots or something. That’s the general vibe on these threads.

I’m a bloody terrible gardener, and hate gardening, but even I can manage to grow vegetables. After an initial outlay of four raised beds (the wood) filled at no expense with grass cuttings and home garden and kitchen waste left to rot down over one winter to produce lovely compost, they’ve been supplying me with a fair amount of free vegetables for about 6 years now. It doesn’t have to be expensive.

Yes but lots of people already have soil in their gardens and a trowel....

This isn't necessarily true. We live on a new build estate have a hell of a lot of builders rumble and very little actual soil. Certainly not enough to grow anything more than grass, not without digging out the crap first.

Even then, the reason we don't have grass is precisely because the grass didn't actually grow half the year and the other half, because of what was underneath, as it has such poor drainage. Our neighbours have all had similar problems. We all started off when the estate was build, with grass and everyone has resorted to alternatives since.

I grow enough to supplement what I buy. I'd hate to have to rely on the allotment.

Xenia i’ve read diaries of people written during the war and they write how weak and hungry they are on rations .. they also had infections and sores that wouldn’t heal because of deficiencies .

And rickets, which can cause complications in childbirth. Visit a people's museum in any big city. I visited one in Glasgow, where there were loads of photos and placards illustrating the ill effects of the nutritional deficiencies that came from rations and food poverty.

*Every thread where someone suggests supplementing your food shopping with a bit of home grown veg goes the same way. Before you know it people are coming out with ridiculousness like "you can't make a meal out of veg" and rebutting suggestions of cauliflower cheese with "what about the lactose intolerant?!" Its always the same.

Those who can and want to will, those who don't will pay the higher prices in the shops.*

And every one of these threads always includes the same smug privileged that assume everyone has a garden to grow veg in or space to do this or funds to try it out and those who can't are just lazy twats who deserve to suffer because they deserve their lot for not growing fucking veg.

Yes having less food and less processed food and less sugar meant the WWII generation were the healthiest ever. Now in 2018 we have the first generation in recent history which is worse off healthwise than the one before as 60% of people are over weight etc.

Yes having less food and less processed food and less sugar meant the WWII generation were the healthiest ever.

Yep, getting blown to bits in the Blitz, killed or maimed in battle and having rickets from nutritional deficiency sure made for better health! But at least they were skinny .

I think it’s cars making people fat as much as anything!

Did they really eat less sugar during the rationing era? The ration per person was enough for a family to make about 3 cakes a week, so everyone would have to have a decent chunk of cake every day to get through it all.

Barbara

A sugar ration was 227g at its lowest point en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_Kingdom#Food_rations

An old can of coke had 35g sugar according to this: www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/nutrition/sugar-salt-and-fat/sugary-drinks/soft-drinks-best-to-worst

A lot of people drink more than 6 cans of coke or similar fizzy drink per week, never mind sweet puddings and cakes on top.

That lists sweets ration as 340g per month in April 1945.

Again, a lot of people these days eat more than that in chocolate per week.

My dad was a boy in the Blitz. He said it was dire. There was an enormous black market, people were trading anything and everything for food, even their bodies and those of their children, because the rations were not enough to eat. There was a police state, you weren't allowed to complain about the war in public, you could be arrested for all sorts of ridiculous stuff, it was dangerous and scary because the all lights out at sundown opened the door for criminals to run riot mugging, raping and looting on top of the bombs falling. But hey, people were thin.

Hahahaha it takes more than that.

My courgette glut and potato harvest would say not. Its very easy but for some reason some want to shroud it in mystery and put others off

And every one of these threads always includes the same smug privileged that assume everyone has a garden to grow veg in or space to do this or funds to try it out and those who can't are just lazy twats who deserve to suffer because they deserve their lot for not growing fucking veg.

Oh FFS. Every single thing I've said has acknowledged that some people can't but the fact remains that a very large percentage of people could. Nobody said anyone was a lazy twat.

I think there's a good chance things could get difficult. I am therefore personally going to do everything possible to make sure that we have as much as we can. I am very time poor but am proof of the fact that it can be done with very little effort. I spend maybe 10 minutes a day. What that produces will not support a whole family. But it does supplement.

Can any of the gardeners on here tell me how to get rid of the 1000+ slugs and snails in my garden? I think I would feel too bad if I committed a mass extermination just so my basil plant can live. And even if I could just kill them all off, the babies would be fully grown again within a month. The people feeding their families on the produce from their garden obviously don't have this problem.

I gave up and have a load of hanging baskets hanging from the line. My strawberries are in hanging baskets nailed to the fence, no problem with slugs this year 'fingrrs crossed'. I have built a massive raised planter from pallets but haven't filled it up yet, that will be used for root veg.

In raised beds, slugs and snails aren’t a problem. Crushed eggshells dotted around help to deter them on the ground.

In raised beds, slugs and snails aren’t a problem. Crushed eggshells dotted around help to deter them on the ground

I beg to disagree.

Combination of things to remove slugs and snails.

Raised beds/pots do make an enormous difference.

Keep very young plants covered with cloches made from old plastic bottles (literally cut them in half and plonk over the plant), crushed egg shells and coffee grounds, and a few sacrificial plants (nasturtiums work well, as do rhubarb leaves). But that 10 minutes a day I spend is largely slug and snail removal in the spring.

Once the plants are established they lose interest.