People you had a sixth sense about and were right

[HarryPotterISreal]

I’ve just been reading one of the spooky threads here and a poster talked about someone she got a bad feeling about and some months later was arrested for abuse or something. When someone is arrested who is a ‘pillar of the community’ someone always says ‘I never liked him, I could always tell’.

Do you have a story where you genuinely knew someone was bad news, though everyone else thought they were wonderful? How could you tell and did others eventually see their true colours?

2ManyChoices am curious as to what the signs were about Kate McCann that made you realise that? i did not see it at all.

Well people thought Christopher Jeffries was a wrong 'un too and look what happened there.

Oh and, just last week I woke up at a weird time, like 3.20am, with a horrible sense of something having woken me, took my bat (pat the bat) and crept downstairs, to nothing but my overactive imagination, checked all doors etc, went back to bed, checked on the kids and nipped to the loo, windows open in the bathroom and I can hear someone talking, peer out of the window and there's 5/6 youths around my neighbours young sons highly modified, pride and joy, car, so I get dressed and go outside, they're mid one wheel removed, I pretend to not see them or know they are there, behind a big hedge, and do some pretend talking to a colleague while pretending to be a police officer. They slink off.

Then wake my very effing angry, neighbour, who wasn't even grateful, her son was though.

Please could you not name people who have not been convicted, otherwise this wonderful thread may be removed by mumsnet.

Agree Harry.

Also I don't think you can 'sense' much just from watching someone on the TV. Nonsense if I may say so.

It’s not sensing through the TV. It’s reading body language. So, I gave the example of the Mick Philpott press conference, I didn’t sense anything. It was more that subconsciously I recognised that his reactions didn’t tally with what he was saying.

I think sometimes Celebs come over as creepy because essentially what you are seeing is still an act/public persona so they do seem fake or untruthful when apparently being themselves.

Reading body language through the medium of TV is also ridiculous.

@YouTheCat I feel exactly the same. A very close family friend idolises him. I've never liked him since being a child. Something very smug and smarmy and creepy about him. I wasn't surprised to hear of suspicions about him. I think the godly, celibate persona doesn't ring true for me.

From my own point of view I'm taking good notice of what someone said about abusive men picking up on vulnerable women who have been abused previously. Will research how to develop my shark cage.

My maternal aunt's second husband doesn't sit right with me. They both don't like me and my aunt hasn't liked me since I was about 12. But there's something I don't like about him. Too opinionated, too tight with his money. Too something. My mum was desperate for £1000 a few years back and they refused to LEND it to her despite spending around £20,000 on holidays each year, owning property and having a pretty lavish life compared to my mum. Instead they told her to get me to lend it to her (single mum of 3, SAHM). Money aside, I still get off vibes from him. There was an incident at a family event years ago where I was trapped by him "playing" in front of lots of other people. I freaked and slapped at him when he wouldn't let me go. He was only "playing" and I shouldn't be so "uptight" however as I'd been trapped and sexually assaulted in my teens and raped by my then boyfriend the same summer, I didn't take kindly to it. However, the whole family seemed the problem to be mine

@MissContrary - Fred Dineage you mean. I actually know him quite well and whilst I couldn't 100% say he has done anything awful, he is very 'old school' touchy feely and creepy from that respect, well tha's kind of how I feel anyway. He is generally a very kind and seemingly nice man so I am not 100% sure, I may be being harsh. Part of me thinks that he is using his celebrity status to be a bit overfriendly/flirty but the other part of me thinks he's just a naturally friendly person.

I am not sure I am a great judge of character, I certainly don;t have a spidy sense!

A quick google says it was fred talbot.

This is a really interesting thread, some eye opening stories

For those saying "can't tell anything through the tv" - do you not form an opinion on politicians, tv personalities etc based on how they come across on screen? Look at the amount of people who instinctively disliked Jimmy Savile. I don't think it's that hard to believe. You're still picking up on their physical & verbal traits. You're still watching & analysing.

Also, in a couple of cases such as with John Tanner, the police want them on camera to flush out these behaviours in them. Rachel O'Reilleys husband did himself no favours with a tv interview. It really turned the tide against him & for the percentage of people who thought he'd done it before the interview.

Wow there are a lot of people on here who think they have never been wrong about their judgement.

I shared an office with someone like this. She said it was down to her Romany/Native American ancestry. She was spectacularly wrong about a lot of things but never remembered them.

She was wrong about guessing that I was pregnant, then wrong about guessing the sex of my child. She didn't spot a colleague who was later convicted of fraud or those hiding health, finance and relationship problems. She claimed to be an excellent judge of character and have a 6th sense. It may have been effective if the other 5 senses and brain were in operation too.

Look at the amount of people who instinctively disliked Jimmy Savile.

Even more people liked him. He was a very successful DJ/presenter. He didn’t get that successful by everyone having a bad feeling about him.

The jumping weather map guy is Fred Talbot. He was the one that was convicted for sexual assault.
Fred Dineage is the news presenter that was on meridian 6 o'clock news and is on the programme investigating well known murderers. I wrote a book about one of the Kray twins by invitation. I haven't ever found him creepy.

He wrote.

She claimed to be an excellent judge of character and have a 6th sense. It may have been effective if the other 5 senses and brain were in operation too.

She was spectacularly wrong about a lot of things but never remembered them.

This - people remembering their one hit and forgetting their 99 misses - is called confirmation bias. Wikipedia article here. I suspect there's been an awful lot of it in this thread.

Oh, I just came on here to write about the absolute certainty I have as to who is behind a relatively recent unsolved murder/accident/disappearence but I think previous commenters may have said the same and they have been deleted! Never have I seen so much guilt on a person's face...

A friend who'd had a really bad time when her first marriage ended. Met her boyfriend, who seemed lovely. But then she sent me a picture of herself and another chap, who she'd just married, and I just thought 'abuser'.

They divorced very quickly and although I don't know the details, it seems he was very abusive.

Never have I seen so much guilt on a person's face

Not defending them, because we just don’t know. However the actions from that night we do know about are enough to give any parent the guilts.

Yes, her expression was one of just the most awful crippling grief. Not stunned or shocked or even incredibly anxious. Just terrible, terrible grief. Like she already knew the child was dead eventhough it was only a few hours after the incident.

He was the one who looked totally stunned and shocked to the point of appearing robotic.

I think it was a tragic, tragic accident caused by her. Poor, poor woman

A therapist. She em
Nded up blabbing my stuff after using my expertise work wise to benefit her greatly.
No doubt she's highly successful. Narcs like her often are.

I wouldn't say I think my radar is that great. I think I've met maybe 3 people I disliked in this way & was right. There's a few other people I dislike and I've just written it off as I don't like them for x reason, I can't like everyone.

Wrt to picking murderers etc, I think a couple of times I've thought something didn't add up and been proved right, not necessarily based on seeing people. Occasionally you'll see interviews & think people look/act guilty as fuck, but everyone is different. 1/100 times you might be right. The only ones I've reacted to at the time were thinking that Mick Philpott cried as he thought he ought to (but I told myself I was being awful), and a very visceral reaction to Jeremy Bambers creepy cousin- he set off my creepdar- but nothing proven.