People you had a sixth sense about and were right

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I’ve just been reading one of the spooky threads here and a poster talked about someone she got a bad feeling about and some months later was arrested for abuse or something. When someone is arrested who is a ‘pillar of the community’ someone always says ‘I never liked him, I could always tell’.

Do you have a story where you genuinely knew someone was bad news, though everyone else thought they were wonderful? How could you tell and did others eventually see their true colours?

Could we please stop with the MM references and finger pointing at celebs. This thread will be deleted soon enough if this carries on

The OP was about gut feelings which have been proven. I am finding it interesting, but HQ will send this proof soon enough

My younger brother once met a cousin of Cliff's 'housemate'. They'd holidayed in his villa and said they were pretty sure his housemate was his partner. A friend of a friend also installed a 2 person loveseat in Cliff's bathtub.

Don't ask me why I've got so many
Cliff stories!!!

I was on holiday near where they lived together in 1989. His “housemate” was 17 at the time...which was also before the age of consent for gay men was lowered in UK.

There was a very well known person in politics who always gave me the creeps when he was on tv. This is going back to the 70s and 80s and this person is long dead. When I went to university, a friend's father was vice chancellor of a university. This person had stayed at their house when she was 14, and crawled into her bed and tried to rape her. It was all hushed up by his entourage, but her father did beat the shit out of him as he kicked him out...

@Edgeof17 you're right. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have mentioned it in response to someone else & I did wonder after I posted I ought to report myself as I only remembered afters that it's a too hot to handle topic on here. Am kicking myself, sincere apologies to HQ, too.

I personally just think we all grieve very differently and perceive each other differently. In the same way that various responses to the same AIBU will tell you were shit staggeringly rude to some poor needy soul or a candidate for the saint hood for patiently defusing a CF.

As an unrelated aside, it is interesting, if you look at this thread, how visceral the reactions are in some instances and how slight but persistent they are in others. I wonder what makes them so.

@DSHathawayGivesMeFannyGallops no worries - i just dont want this thread to go poof as i am fascinated by some of these stories (although some of them are terribly sad)

As you were

DSHathaway I have had to bite my, er, fingertips quite hard on this thread in relation to some newsworthy figures I've had feelings about and cases that don't quite add up.

I'm instantly suspicious whenever anyone mentions child trafficking/MI5/6/any secret service/Mafia (of whatever nationality) involvement. The truth - if we ever find out - is generally likely to be a lot more banal.

My DH worked/met briefly with Fred West, we lived in another City and my DH was doing building work in FW's area.

I can remember him talking about him, which was unusual, but FW gave him the creeps, to the extent that he needed to mention it.

My DD was at school and there was an older Teen Boy hanging around the Girls. My DD got into arguments with other Girls about him being around and I was called into School. She was branded as jealous. He was convicted of appalling sex attacks on underage vulnerable Girls last year.

I didn't like a neighbour, he was also a drinking acquaintance of my then Partner. He helped his Father cover up the murder of his Stepmother, he actually left her very young children to find her body, alone, in the house. It came to light that there was a lot of dodgy abusive behaviour in the past.

I wouldn't say it's a 6th sense but I seem to be able to spot the creepy men easier than other women I know. Maybe it is a survival thing. Everyone's favourite drama teacher at school started sending me messages as soon as he left the school (I was 15), people were surprised when they found out he was grooming several girls. Countless men I have always thought would cheat on their partners, and everyone seems surprised when the news comes out. It always seems obvious to me.

I never get the same feeling from women though.

I’m quite sensitive to changes in atmosphere if we’re out somewhere and have often just had an “odd” feeling and wanted to leave, which I always do.

The first time it ever happened I ignored it and ended up getting home several hours late, covered in a stranger’s blood because he’d had his throat cut in the pub. 18 years later that sticks with me and if I feel that subtle shift before something kicks off I always leave.

Edge fair point, I’ve reported my post to be deleted to MNHQ.

An acquaintance of DH's son. He was about 6 at the time and was being really destructive in a venue. The staff spoke to the dad and he told the oldest child off. The oldest child who had been very well behaved.

I muttered to dh that he would grow up a monster!

He's murdered his ex partner and denied it. Has a completely narcissistic attitude of how he's the victim while his mother screams at people he's innocent! 😢

My sympathies lie with the ex and her family who have lost a loved one!

You see I agree with a lot of people that there is something odd about Amanda Knox but to me it conveys a presentation of someone who has suffered trauma, sustained long term trauma.

Not that she's got something to hide that incriminates her, I feel very sorry for her.

@Takufujimito - yes, she strikes me as being out of step with the social conventional norm somehow & possibly has simply always been like that rather than hiding murder. Although who knows for sure?

I'm amused at how so many people have a "sixth sense" about women who are going to have affairs with their husbands, yet that same sixth sense didn't kick in after however many years of being with said husband...

The "sixth sense" you're referring to is simply your insecurity stemming from the fact you married someone with a propensity to cheat on you.

Women in secure, content relationships don't get a "sixth sense" when their husbands are exposed to attractive women... funny that, isn't it?

"The "sixth sense" you're referring to is simply your insecurity stemming from the fact you married someone with a propensity to cheat on you."

Keeping in mind that many men have no intention of cheating when they get married, but things change, they get bored, feel rejected, meet someone who turns their head etc. I had no idea my ex would cheat, until his behaviour started to change about 2 years after ds was born. Lots of little things told me something wasn't right, but not exactly what. I wouldn't say at that point it was my insecurities, I'd never been cheated on at that point and (foolishy) trusted him. When I realised what he was up to, (sexting a co worker and I later found out, tried to kiss her), I wasn't a bit surprised. There was another time when we were broken up, and I just knew he fancied one of his relatives new girlfriends and vice versa, just from seeing them together once. Everyone else thought I was mad/imagining things, until she left his relative, for him, a week later.

You can't predict who will turn your partners head, or when or where or why.

Some people you simply know will be trouble.

@SansaryaAgain
:) He used to be a regular visitor to a guest house in Bournemouth with his friends - never any issues

I get the same vibe about Knox. The Italian police appear to have cocked this up for the family of Meredith RIP.

I told my hubby that Ian Huntley had done it when they interviewed him as a bystander - he gave loads of micro smirks.

This one is not really a sixth sense, but more an all-the-rest-of-the-senses-why-did-none-of-us-say-anything.

My first teaching job was at a small boarding school (around 300 kids, two thirds boarders). The housemaster of the boys house was incredibly rah, but in the way that hideous etiquette expert on the daily mail is (clearly lower middle but went to a fancy school and wants everyone to think he is upper middle). Pronounced waistcoat as "weskit" .

Anyway, he had this way of saying completely unacceptable things and making you think you would be being nasty to think anything of it. He said he enjoyed listening at the boys' doors and bursting in when they weren't expecting, and said the perk of being a housemaster was 'oodles of flesh '.

Once a boy in his house had a head injury and he volunteered to take him to hospital. I made up every reason under the sun for it to be me to take him instead. Six months later he was arrested for grooming a 15 year old in his choir. Everyone had something to say to the police about his inappropriate behaviour, but not one of us had mentioned it to anyone else, for fear of seeming unkind!

One that stands out massively for me

Will try to be vague for the sake of those involved. Very close family there's a matriarch children grandchildren (I'm one of) and great-grandchildren. A, for lack of a better term "long lost" grandchild came into the family.

Every one loved her and totally embraced her it was like she had always been here. I massively distrusted her. Kept as much distance as possible between us. Like pps have said just an instant gut feeling soon as I laid eyes on her.

Fast forward one year and the shit storm she has caused you wouldn't believe. She could have torn the family apart with the lies and manipulation. One family member in particular is spiralling totally out of control due to her influence.

At the time I told select few I didn't feel comfortable with the situation and she was trouble. They're all coming to me now saying how right I was. A lot more about her has come out now as well inc previous for theft and drug use. I'm sure there's more.

I've re learnt to trust my spidey radar. On two occasions I've got the "oh give them a chance by now ex friends - "they will grow on you". The only two times I did, it was not good. One turned out to be the ex from hell, the other was a "friend" who was a complete sociopath who lied constantly & ended up having their Child Minding license revoked for emotionally neglecting children in her "care" & racist behaviour.

I took a job a couple of years ago, interviewed by a fabulous person & then was given a new manager.... he creeped me out, no idea why, i had to travel all over the country with him, and just something about him didn't sit right. I think he knew that and we parted ways before the end of my probation. I won't be surprised if his face is on most wanted at some point.

The other was a 15 year old on our street, always wanted to come in to play with my young DSs, always telling me how great he was with his cousins at putting them bed...it was just a bit weird & I felt sooo uncomfortable around him. I shooed him away, soon after the family left in a bit of a midnight flit - no sure what went on, but he wasn't at the local school anymore.

Poor sentencing for rape, murder and paedophilia is a WHOLE other thread

DH (then DP) got friendly with the bloke who rented the offices next door. The first time he rang my DH's mobile I answered and even though he was perfectly pleasant and civil I knew instantly that he somehow threatened my relationship with DH

I went on to meet him in person and again he was absolutely normal and pleasant to me, but all my alarm bells were ringing off the scale.

Turns out I was right. Over the next 6 months he did everything he could to split DH and I up. I still don't quite know whether he wanted me or DH? In the end DH realised what he was up to and cut contact with the bastard. He had the audacity to send gifts when our DD was born. I binned them.

I have a few of these, first about a teacher I had when I was in Y8, so 12/13, I asked my head of year to move me, turns out he'd been keeping some of the girls back and making them 'walk like models' bend over in front of him etc.

Second, a new girl joined our group, made me tingly, I went out for a night out with the group and was the worse for wear, she apparently told the others she'd take me home and didn't, she took me to her house where she tried to get me into a threesome, while telling me all about cheating on her husband.

Third, same thing, a group friend, put the moves on some other husbands very obviously.