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'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.

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lionheart · 30/07/2018 02:58

Quotation from Quintillian, I believe (unless someone was fibbing about that too).

Old thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3309032-Has-Trump-Turned-Traitor-Trump-thread-continued?watched=1&msgid=79826824#79826824

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lionheart · 07/08/2018 23:58
Hmm

thehill.com/homenews/media/400779-fox-news-host-how-could-trump-testify-to-mueller-knowing-he-could-face-charges

'Fox News host Dagen McDowell questioned how President Trump would be able to sit for a potential interview with special counsel Robert Mueller without lying.

During Fox News’s “Outnumbered” on Monday, McDowell said that Mueller is “setting a trap” for the president.

“How in the world could he ever cooperate and sit down with Mueller for an interview knowing that if you tell one lie to Bob Mueller, he will move to file charges?” she said.

Democratic strategist and Fox News contributor Jessica Tarlov responded, saying: “He could not tell a lie, that’s always an option here.”'

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cozietoesie · 08/08/2018 00:03

Not for 45. He's 'forgotten' what the truth of the matter is. Wink

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ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 07:25

CNN's Don Lemon responds to President Donald Trump's personal attack on himself and NBA star LeBron James, saying "referring to African-Americans as dumb is one of the oldest canards of racism in this country."

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 07:33

Christine McDaniel
@christinemcdan
“If you off­shore it, the tar­iff goes away and the cost of the parts come down,” said Al­traco co-owner Scott Williams, “The only peo­ple that are go­ing to suf­fer are U.S. work­ers cur­rently mak­ing these parts. Their jobs will no longer be needed.”
Optimism among small firms is at its lowest since the election. One reason: tariffs.
‘We Are at the Limit’: Trump’s Tariffs Turn Small Businesses Upside Down
wsj.com
mobile.twitter.com/christinemcdan/status/1026951894256766982

www.redstate.com/prevaila/2018/08/05/president-trump-staggeringly-ignorant-comes-tariffs-trade-deficit/

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 07:48

Sarah Schradin
@SarahSchradin

So who's winning the current U.S. "trade war"? Well, it certainly doesn't appear to be U.S. companies or the American public; here are a few examples:

Impact on small manufacturers: Indiana lawn-care equipment manufacturer had to lay off 75 employees this summer due to increased steel costs and other tariffs

Layoffs from Trump tariffs are piling up. So are calls for more bailouts.
washingtonpost.com

Impact on American consumers: Coca-Cola is raising its prices due to costs going up with the tariffs partly to blame
Coca-Cola Raises Prices, and CEO Blames Trump Tariffs
fortune.com

Impact on Maine fishermen: In July, China hit U.S. lobsters with a 25% tariffs in retaliation for the U.S. tariffs, causing Maine’s lobster industry to lose that critical market
Some lobster exporters are feeling pinch of Chinese tariff - Portland Press Herald
pressherald.com

Impact on craft breweries: From coast to coast, the tariffs on aluminum and steel are negatively impacting breweries by raising the costs.
Brewery tackles tariffs
localdvm.com

And for breweries on the West coast:
Northwest Craft Beer Industry Feeling Bite From Metals Tariffs
opb.org

Impact on farmers: Across the country, farmers, such as this soybean farmer, worry they will permanently lose the Chinese market to other countries like Brazil
President Trump's tariffs impact Lehigh County farmers
wfmz.com

Honestly, I could tweet a lot more examples of the damage. From cranberry growers to automakers to retailers, the impact is widespread. It's time to have #TradeNotTariffs & open markets for American businesses, workers & families, rather than putting up more barriers to them.
mobile.twitter.com/SarahSchradin/status/1026873645178806278

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 07:52

<a class="break-all" href="http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/400630-gop-fears-steep-losses-in-state-legislatures?amp#click=t.co/EIANIiFELE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">thehill.com/homenews/campaign/400630-gop-fears-steep-losses-in-state-legislatures?amp#click=t.co/EIANIiFELE

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 08:04

Qriouser and Qriouser:

Will Sommer
@willsommer

QAnon world has responded to the pro-Trump personalities attacking their conspiracy theory by convincing themselves that Congress is bribing the MAGA pundits with $160 million.

@willsommer
So now anyone who says QAnon is fake, including Jack Posobiec and "Dilbert" creator Scott Adams is getting accused of being on the take for $160 million
mobile.twitter.com/willsommer/status/1026960502897950727

amp.thedailybeast.com/trumps-biggest-media-fans-struggle-to-stop-qanons-spread?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 08:10

'The Shadow Rulers of the VA
How Marvel Entertainment chairman Ike Perlmutter and two other Mar-a-Lago cronies are secretly shaping the Trump administration’s veterans policies.'
www.propublica.org/article/ike-perlmutter-bruce-moskowitz-marc-sherman-shadow-rulers-of-the-va/amp?utm_campaign=sprout&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=1533681163&__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 08:14

Democrats are facing a new internal fight: the establishment wants to win back Obama voters who defected to Trump, but progressives want to focus on turning out minorities:

www.axios.com/progressives-netroot-nation-2018-midterm-strategy-minorities-456d1a57-47f2-4247-94ae-717a254cd7c9.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 08:20

'An investigation carried out by Federal Communication Commission’s own inspector general officially refutes controversial claims that a cyberattack was responsible for disrupting the FCC’s comment system in May 2017, at the height of the agency’s efforts to kill off net neutrality.'
gizmodo.com/heres-the-internal-report-proving-the-fcc-made-up-a-cyb-1828166991/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Roussette · 08/08/2018 08:42

mini that was a great clip of Don Lemon. He summed it up

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 10:15

I thought it was balanced and powerful, Roussette ; he was right to respond and his measured delivery was just right, tooSmile

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 10:22

She's back! Ms Maddow on form on Gates/Manafort in court:

PerkingFaintly · 08/08/2018 10:22

Trump can be proud. It's because of him I discovered Don Lemon last year.

I'd never heard of Lemon, but now my life is enriched by the outstanding output of this thoughtful, intelligent and well-informed newsman, whose work I have been recommending to others.

Nice one, DJT.Grin

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 10:29

Side splitting:
Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins
Chris Ruddy, the CEO of Newsmax media, stands up at dinner with multiple CEOs to introduce himself and says, “I’m the enemy of the people who supports Donald J. Trump.”
mobile.twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1026982753756176386

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 10:35

Supposed voice of reason:
Matthew Miller
@matthewamiller
Supposed voice of reason Lindsey Graham endorsing the preposterous idea that the FBI helped Clinton in 2016 and promising yet another investigation, which will surely be the one to find something. (link: www.rollcall.com/news/politics/graham-quips-that-trump-brought-up-muller-and-russia-about-20-times) rollcall.com/news/politics/…

' “So, I’m going to let Mueller do his job and we’ll see what he finds, but Mueller’s not in charge of looking at the FISA warrant application, he’s not in charge of overseeing the FBI. What they did during the 2016 election on behalf of Clinton appalls me.”

“There’s a good chance I’ll be Judiciary chairman if we hold the Senate next year. If I’m Judiciary chairman? Stay tuned,” Graham said.

Based on seniority rules of the Senate Republican Conference, current Judiciary Chairman Charles E. Grassley of Iowa could jump back to the chairmanship of the Senate Finance Committee in 2019. Graham is next in line at the Judiciary panel.'
mobile.twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/1026977148320534528

ohmymimi · 08/08/2018 10:44

'How Russia Persecutes Its Dissidents Using U.S. Courts.
Russia’s requests to Interpol for Red Notices—the closest instrument to an international arrest warrant—against Kremlin opponents are being met with increasing deference by the Department of Homeland Security.'
www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/566309/?__twitter_impression=true

PerkingFaintly · 08/08/2018 10:46

Wow, that Maddow piece on the Manafort trial is worth watching.

She makes some sort of sense (!) of the part where bank manager Steve Calk is touted by Manafort for a job as Secretary of the US Army, apparently in return for lending Manafort a quarter of the capital of the bank. IIUC.

(Astonishingly, the bank loan is also mentioned by Calk's STBXW in their divorce papers, so watch this space for whether Calk benefitted financially from the bank loan, too.)