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Bathroom comes with the house??!!

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greencygnets · 29/07/2018 12:10

So DH and I have just bought a new house (not brand new but new to us :)) and it cost us a lot of money (far more than a care to admit! :))
We moved in yesterday, the house is perfect except for one thing...

They've taken the bloody bathroom with them!!!!

One of the two main bathrooms upstairs is literally empty, like I don't mean just the furniture which you obviously take with you. But they've taken the bath, sink and shower!!!!

The room is tiled but theres random pipes sticking out of walls where these things should be!! The only thing left is the toilet. I honestly don't know what to do... We were going to redo the bathroom anyway at some point but never told this to anybody and weren't planning to do so until at least November/December time but now we don't have a choice!!

The kids come home from the holiday with my in-laws on Tuesday and we've got no bathroom for them!!!!

AIBU to think that the bathroom comes with the house, or is it totally reasonable to take the bathroom with you to your new house??!!

OP posts:
tenbob · 01/08/2018 08:07

Jux
You 'hate' fitted kitchens?! Hmm

A house without a kitchen isn't mortgageable so you are very unlikely to find one unless it's midway through a renovation
And if you do find one, you'll have to pay cash for it

LongSummerDays · 01/08/2018 08:15

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HannahHut · 01/08/2018 08:16

tenbob I also prefer not to have a fitted kitchen, I like my kitchen to be completely mobile, that way when I go on holiday I can take everything...including the kitchen sink 😉

BarbaraofSevillle · 01/08/2018 08:33

Ikea do (or used to do) a very nice unfitted kitchen, but my fear would be that lots of grot will get stuck around all the legs and in the joins between the units leading to lots of fiddly cleaning.

raviolidreaming · 01/08/2018 08:36

@LongSummerDays, I wouldn't like to say...Wink

RubiksQueen · 01/08/2018 08:40

Fucks sake with your troll hunting. She said that the other useable bathroom has a shower and no bath, and she's got a baby and a toddler IIRC. Makeshift will be filling the baby bath with the shower, trying to bath the toddler somehow. Not all small children like or are used to showers.

SayNoToCarrots · 01/08/2018 08:40

My house was not checked for a kitchen when we got a mortgage.

SilverHairedCat · 01/08/2018 08:49

@SayNoToCarrots it would have been, as your mortgage company would have done the basic survey.

SilverHairedCat · 01/08/2018 08:50

Sorry, just found its called the valuation report. Wrong name!

raviolidreaming · 01/08/2018 08:54

RubiksQueen Well, it must be true then. I still think it would be interesting to see what state the main bathroom was left in, regardless.

SayNoToCarrots · 01/08/2018 09:16

I am probably remembering wrong, but I don't recall them actually going into the house.

OVienna · 01/08/2018 09:16

Not sure in the age of the Mail Online lazy journalism I'd have the guts to post a photo of my actual bathroom on a Mumsnet thread.

SilverHairedCat · 01/08/2018 09:20

@SayNoToCarrots there will have to have been some sort of valuation survey, but I don't know the ins and outs of it. There's probably a surveyor on here somewhere who'll tell me it's a desktop exercise!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 01/08/2018 09:32

IME a valuation report is where they literally drive up, park outside, look at the house to check it exists and has a roof, doors and windows and then drive off! They wouldn't know if it had a bathroom or kitchen.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 01/08/2018 09:33

BTW I'm not a surveyor or anything, this is just from what I've been told during my buying and selling houses experiences.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 01/08/2018 09:45

I have an unfitted kitchen in my holiday house. It’s an IKEA one and it works really well. Having had this one I wouldn’t be at all adverse to the idea in my permanent home if I lived in a place where it was normal to take your kitchen when you move.

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 01/08/2018 09:56

When our valuation report was done they definitely went into the house, the report actually described the kitchen as “inadequate” ..... which it was to be fair...

tenbob · 01/08/2018 10:07

If you get a 'desktop' valuation (where they don't go inside the house - and often use google street view to look at the house from the outside) they will still speak to the estate agent
And they will need to know there is a kitchen.
The exceptions to this will be in your mortgage is a small % of the house value, or if it is a remortgage

But not having a proper kitchen will make your house a lot less valuable because it can only be sold to a small pool of cash buyers

tenbob · 01/08/2018 10:11

Or there are some specialist mortgages for renovations/self build where they will release some of the money, and then you need to fit a kitchen and have them come to do another check before they will release all the money

But in short, houses without kitchens are problematic to lenders in the UK

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 01/08/2018 10:15

Why is a house unmortgageable without a “proper” kitchen? A basic kitchen just consists of a sink, fridge and oven, really, apart from the cupboards? And the sink is the only thing that’s not actually movable.
Some people might opt to bring range cookers with them, and most people take the fridgefreezer.
I can understand how a very basic kitchen would be off putting to actual buyers, but not how it would scupper the mortgage offer?
Can anyone explain?

tenbob · 01/08/2018 10:51

What do you mean by a 'basic' kitchen?
Just a sink and the space for a cooker?

In order to get a residential mortgage, the property has to be habitable.
And to be habitable, it has to have a functioning kitchen and bathroom

A bare room with a sink and the potential for freestanding units is not a functioning kitchen although you could possible argue the toss with the surveyors and bank about the definition of 'functioning'
But a house that can only be mortgaged after contracted negotiations with a bank is a nightmare scenario!

It's obviously a good thing that banks have a minimum basic standard for what they consider fit for human habitation, and that being able to store your food and utensils, and prepare a meal falls under than definition, as does a proper bathroom

Obviously a house that is 'less appealing' is also one that is less valuable so of course banks are going to shy away from houses that would be difficult/impossible to sell on in the event of a default

There are specialist mortgages available for real doer-upper houses which need total renovations

Jux · 01/08/2018 12:03

Tenbob, if there's a sink and connections for a cooker then it's a kitchen surely? I have a table, chairs, a dresser, a sideboard, shelves.... I can put up more shelves if I want them.

What constitutes a kitchen?

I don't need all those horrid cupboards with horrid tops which are all far too high anyway therefore unusable afaiac.

Jux · 01/08/2018 12:10

I won't actually need a mortgage, as we are in the fortunate position to have no more mortgage on our current home and will be downsizing.

I do want the last home I have to have a kitchen which works for me, and that will be one where the worktops are at a height where I can use them. That's about the height of a normal table, about 6" lower than most kitchen countertops. The cooker shall be that height too.

I'm sick to death of getting my back and shoulders messed up just from feeding my family.

YogaPants · 01/08/2018 12:52

@Jux my gps lived in a farmhouse in Devon with the kind of kitchen you describe. The kitchen consisted of a sink on a laminate counter, a fridge, an aga and then a whole bunch of free standing tables, cupboards, dressers like this one
www.cotswoldco.com/dining-room-furniture/dressers/wiltshire-painted-large-dresser/

Perfectly functional but not the style of the fitted kitchens I see nowadays.

StoatOfManyColours · 01/08/2018 13:01

I have a freestanding kitchen, but if we sell the house I won't run off with it!

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