To wish schools would scrap registration

[gettingevenhotter]

Seems to make more sense to me to register kids in lessons.

We could finish half an hour earlier if this was the case. Bliss.

Tutor time can be important as it can flag up issues with students etc..... sort out letters from home. They also normally have assembly during that 30 mins as well.

I know, it just seems a stupid waste of time - the kids get bored stupid.

Be better to have a longer lunch and tutors available if needed in that period?

Also if pupil isn't in their first lesson (music lesson or councillor for example) they wouldn't be marked in. Then there would be fire regs problems if there was a school evacuation etc

Formally Registering kids in every single lesson is a faff and takes ages. Kids need to be registered at the beginning of the day to ensure that they are safely onsite so that absence can be flagged up straightaway. It also means that the first lesson of the day isn’t endlessly interrupted by the inevitable lateness of some pupils. Having a buffer zone of 20 minutes means all the admin is done, messages given out, stuff taken to office etc and then means lessons can start on time with everyone there.

When do the tutors get their lunch then?

DD2s high school scrapped registration for a trial year and it’s a pain in the bum. There have been so many complaints about missed messages, letters not being handed out etc that they’re adding registration back in next year.

We have to register kids in every lesson. Why is it a faff? Takes all of thirty seconds.

Read it again.

Assembly. Give out notices. Monitor behaviour. Sort out stuff like options/work experience

How would you propose that tutors would get to see the kids that they needed to see during a longer lunch break?

Tutor time is used for announcements, monitoring kids' well-being and behaviour, helming uniform and equipment etc.

At my dc school they get registered in every lesson. It's not a faff as apparently the teachers don't call a register or anything like that but just count up and see who is missing. They start at 9 with lesson 1 and then have tutor at 11. This according to my kids is a really nice part of the day. It's like their home base. The tutor is the person they and parents talk to. They do a range of things like news quizzes, discussions, snacks, and register.

Yes, and it doesn’t take twenty minutes. Ime anyway. Uniform is rearranged after tutor time anyway.

Be better to have a longer lunch and tutors available if needed in that period?

Because staff don't need a lunch break?

We have tutor time and registration at the beginning of every class. Some of them would just wonder off otherwise.

Ours did and it's been a disaster. Loads of miscommunication.

Don’t be irritating or thick Pengggwn.

If your lunch is forty minutes extend it by ten and then if there’s a pressing need for a kid to see someone, they can in those ten minutes.

It does take 20 minutes, at least in every school I have ever worked in.

Registering is only a tiny portion of what happens. Give out a million message and detention letter, dicusions and monitoring of behaviour, deal with students questions and concern about relationships, family, money issues, revision, disagreements with subjects teacher, support with managing homework, encourage extra curricular activities. As well as form assembly, news/world issues discussion, quiet reading morning or whatever the school does.

Are you a form tutor OP? If sounds like you and your school needs more of a structure to form time.

if there’s a pressing need for a kid to see someone, they can in those ten minutes.

How does the tutor get to see that kid in the ten minutes if there is no time in the day to give out notices like ‘your tutor needs to see you at 12 in room X’?

And kids would forget to turn up or ‘forget’ to turn up.

gettingevenhotter

I am not 'thick'. I think you may be misunderstanding the pastoral role.

I’ve never given out a million messages. It’s usually finding some shit for them so they don’t start rioting.

You were deliberately misunderstanding my message and it was annoying

You are not thick but you can be fucking irritating

I suspect you need a cold drink and a lie down, OP.

gettingevenhotter
Don’t be irritating or thick Pengggwn.

If your lunch is forty minutes extend it by ten and then if there’s a pressing need for a kid to see someone, they can in those ten minutes.

I can lose ten minutes talking to a child about the lesson, another 10 - 15 minutes for detentions (a rolling start depending on when the pupils decide to turn up or if they have a mention elsewhere) as we discus the reason for the detentions etc.

Even with your extra 10 minutes (so generous) I am down to 35 (yes others have 30 minute lunches), then there is paperwork, emails and the child that must see you at that very moment as its really important.

Before to long I am down to no minutes and no time to get a drink or go to the bathroom.

this is just an explanation, I love my job and recognise that those outside the teaching profession have it as hard or worse

I’ve never heard of this before!

DC school doesn’t do it.

When I was at school we had 5 mins of registration at 9am and I think again after lunch. I don’t remember it being used for anything else eg letters/announcements. We certainly didn’t get any support!!

The guidance staff were separate teachers.