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Original poster

To wish schools would scrap registration

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 11:18

Seems to make more sense to me to register kids in lessons.

We could finish half an hour earlier if this was the case. Bliss.

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BoneyBackJefferson · 27/07/2018 11:41

gettingevenhotter
I’ve never given out a million messages. It’s usually finding some shit for them so they don’t start rioting.

Sorry, but you need to build more structure in to tutor time.

BoneyBackJefferson · 27/07/2018 11:43

Sevendown
I’ve never heard of this before!

As a great man once said "welcome to the year of the fruitbat" (paraphrased)
Smile

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 11:43

I would love to know how to do that. Actually, I wouldn’t, I have better things to do Wink

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BoneyBackJefferson · 27/07/2018 11:44

gettingevenhotter
I would love to know how to do that. Actually, I wouldn’t, I have better things to do wink

there is your problem (even with the emoji)

Sparklyshoes16 · 27/07/2018 11:44

@gettingevenhotter 40 min lunch I wish...myself and many of my colleagues would get 50 min in that time 3 days a week (1 was mandatory) I would run a lunch club...on the other two I would be on duty or photocopying, setting up next lesson, detentions, sorting stuff that's happened during the morning or for the afternoon, meetings etc, usually ram half a sandwich down whilst on the move or skip lunch all together as no time...there's no way i'd been available to sort form stuff as well! Having 20 mins I'm the morning gives that settle down time and info time, flag up, talking time...compared to 10 min rush at the end of lunch when kids are usually off their rocker!

VeraViolet · 27/07/2018 11:46

When I was at school, registration in the morning and afternoon was the 15-20 minute period I spent with my form and form tutor twice a day.

It made me feel part of a small community within the school, rather than just turning up for lessons and then going home.

Without it, how would kids get to know their form tutor sufficiently to the point that they'd feel comfortable confusing in them?

TeenTimesTwo · 27/07/2018 11:46

OP. If you are a teacher, I think you would be better off going on to 'The Staffroom' topic and wording a thread such as:
How does your school manage registration, tutor time and notices? I find that the we allow per day seems to be wasted and I want to understand if my school is doing thing differently from others, or just not being efficient/effective.

VeraViolet · 27/07/2018 11:46

*confiding

leccybill · 27/07/2018 11:50

Tutor time in my school is 30 minutes and is tightly accounted for with a rota of PHSE lessons, careers, literacy, numeracy, assembly, as well as squeezing in fundraising planning, monitoring kids on behaviour cards, detentions, uniform and equipment check (all goes on a spreadsheet). Not a minute to spare!

Sparklyshoes16 · 27/07/2018 11:51

There's no way I would have got to know my form kids without tutor time on a morning...I had some amazing kids that did athletics, dancing, archery, patisserie type baking, golf, Art, writing, drama, music, fishing...even went and supported them at competitions, bake shows, dance shows etc. Loved how I got to know their parents too and that started with having form time on a morn.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 11:53

I’ve never liked the pastoral stuff tbf

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pieceofpurplesky · 27/07/2018 11:53

Form time is essential to build relationships with the pupils so that they have someone they trust in school. I have lost count of the amount of issues that I have dealt with.
Then there are letters and notices. Discussions about behaviour. Reminding them about detentions. Being the face that parents know and can contact.

I love my form and time is structured so that they know what to do.

pieceofpurplesky · 27/07/2018 11:53

If you don't like pastoral stuff why are you a teacher?

crunchtimes · 27/07/2018 11:54

Its primary for pastoral care and to give the pupils a form tutor - an adult in the school who they have a consistent relationship with so if they have issues/concerns/need to talk they know who to turn to.
I have worked in secondary education, I think having a form room/teacher is very important, and yes the 1st lesson of the day would be a disaster with pupils arriving late!

nicebitofquiche · 27/07/2018 11:55

In high school end of day tutor group time was a good way to find out who'd bunked off after lunch.

VeraViolet · 27/07/2018 11:56

I’ve never liked the pastoral stuff tbf

Then you shouldn't be a form tutor.

Registration is an essential part of the school day for pastoral reasons.

Sparklyshoes16 · 27/07/2018 11:56

@gettingevenhotter slightly worrying if this is your attitude and you are a Teacher? I did more Pastoral than teaching my subject that may well have been due to the fact we had a lot of children with safeguarding issues but even if you haven't getting to know the kids to build relationships with them to understand them better and make your teaching life easier would be a priority?

sashh · 27/07/2018 11:58

Actual registration could be done electronically with a fingerprint the same way most schools have children pay for lunch.

If it's used well a tutor time can be effective eg equipment check, making sure each child has the right equipment for the day is better than scrounging around for pens in every lesson.

Reading is also a good option, I've been in schools where the 'equipment' includes a book, 15-20 mins reading a day is effective.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:00

I have to Vera. If I could get out of it I would. However, I genuinely believe it’s a waste of time.

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MrsS1980 · 27/07/2018 12:03

Bet year heads argue over who gets stuck with you each year! Teachers like you destroy the reputation of the rest of us and lead to public feeling that we are just in it for the short days and long holidays.

actualpuffins · 27/07/2018 12:09

Just microchip them and scan them when they come in!

More seriously, if hey have cards/thumbprints for lunch, maybe this could be done for registration. I'd prefer this, and DD1 finishing 30/40 minutes earlier instead at 3pm, as it takes an hour to get home.

They could still have a form tutor or key tutor and see them regularly for one to one meetings instead.

Gatehouse77 · 27/07/2018 12:09

Our school have 10 minutes tutor time in the morning - registration and notices are put up on the whiteboard. Anything specific should be verbally told to the students, IMO. Then it's not them to attend/comply/be aware of...

They also register at the beginning of every lesson which takes less than 5 minutes.

Afternoon tutor times are either an assembly or PDP except Fridays when they do neither as they finish earlier.

Most of tutor time is spent with the kids chatting amongst themselves, on their phones (shouldn't be) and some talking to the tutor. By 6th form they pretty much come and go as they please as they can register by biometrics/PIN after an initial period at the beginning of the year.

actualpuffins · 27/07/2018 12:11

There must be some kind of system whereby DD1 is marked into her lessons anyway, as I can check on an app whether she has turned up and what lesson she is in at any given time.

LimeIce · 27/07/2018 12:13

Loved how I got to know their parents too and that started with having form time on a morn
How do you get to know the parents? I've never seen my dd's form tutor as we don't have a slot with them at parents' eve.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:13

Don’t be daft MrsS. I’m there to teach. I like doing that. I don’t like battling for twenty minutes at the start of the day.

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