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Original poster

To wish schools would scrap registration

217 replies

gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 11:18

Seems to make more sense to me to register kids in lessons.

We could finish half an hour earlier if this was the case. Bliss.

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footballmum · 27/07/2018 12:15

Newsflash. Lots of people do things in their jobs that they don’t enjoy but have to get on with it in order to be paid and not get sacked!! Enjoy your nice long holiday OP Wink

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:20

I know - but it’s pointless!

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noblegiraffe · 27/07/2018 12:21

If you think registration with a form tutor is pointless then you or your school are probably doing it wrong.

bigKiteFlying · 27/07/2018 12:24

DD1 school registers every lesson - they meet with form at end of day - twice a week assembly and rest PSE.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:24

It’s pointless because registering a bunch of kids isn’t a special job. They turn up, they go to the lesson, register is taken, jobs done.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:24

Yeah we register every lesson in case someone is truanting (surely not Hmm)

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ilovesooty · 27/07/2018 12:27

I'm there to teach

You don't think an interest in your pupils has any relevance to your role then?

ilovesooty · 27/07/2018 12:29

Pointless to teachers like you who have zero interest in your pupils perhaps.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:29

Clearly you can only be interested in pupils for twenty minutes a day

Any interest at any other time is wrong, wrong, wrong.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:29

Don’t be a fool sooty

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Pengggwn · 27/07/2018 12:30

I wish people wouldn't get on the OP's back about not embracing the pastoral side of teaching with all the force of her being. Nobody tells a doctor they have to like their patients. They just expect professionalism. Some people like the pedagogical side of teaching. It's fine.

bigKiteFlying · 27/07/2018 12:31

DD1 school has the yr 7 and Yr8 taught by the form teacher, for over 50% of lessons in yr 7 and less yr 8, rather than specialists teachers - so they build up a relationship in that time.

Major downside is for many subjects, mainly humanities , they don't get specialist subject teachers till later in the school.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:31

Aw, Pengggwn Wine

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ilovesooty · 27/07/2018 12:31

Oh dear. Turned your insults on me now? I can see why you have no interest in pastoral work. You can't interact respectfully with people.

Sparklyshoes16 · 27/07/2018 12:32

@LimeIce met parents at drop in evenings, parent evenings, info evenings, special award ceremony's, meetings and when I would go and watch kids at their shows out of school (my choice) or if I was out and about shopping etc and kids would come and say hello...I would usually ask them how their hobby/shows we're going etc parents seemed to like the fact I would take an interest in their child and not just their academics. Even had a parent buy me an ice cream (a thank you for supporting their son at a football match with some of his form on a sat) when I was on hols in Cornwall when I randomly bumped into them 😊

RedSkyLastNight · 27/07/2018 12:33

DC's school have registration in every lesson and tutor time at the end of the day. Tutor time is also used for PSHE, assesmblies etc.
Never heard them say they thought it was a waste of time - maybe the question is more to do with how OP's school is using their "registration" time?

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:33

That’s more a middle school isn’t it, BigKite?

I’m actually very interested in my pupils (god, that sounds all kind of wrong Grin) but I’ve never found the form tutor time to be conducive in which to do that. You’re either expected to nag and moan at them, or make them do things they don’t want to do (I am very passionate re reading and promote it but my form still sit with a 1977 copy of Hard Times upside down while chatting to their mate) and then they get bored and start dicking about. I’d rather just teach,

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Seeline · 27/07/2018 12:33

My DCs tutor have always used the session for other things too. Yes there are the notices etc, but on the days that there isn't assembly, the tutors arrange discussions on current affairs, organise the kids to do presentations on a hobby/interest, get small groups to present something, run a quiz etc, as well as being available to advise on school matters or personal matters. Near exam time, they might help with revision tips etc.

I don't think it's fair on teachers or pupils to have to spend their lunch break doing these things. Staff need a break, and the children have a variety of extra-curricula activities at lunch, which are important to their school life.

ilovesooty · 27/07/2018 12:33

I would say professionalism would involve making registration a productive and meaningful experience not carrying on about how pointless it is.

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gettingevenhotter · 27/07/2018 12:33

You were the one being insulting sooty Hmm

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MyOtherProfile · 27/07/2018 12:37

I’ve never liked the pastoral stuff tbf
Gasp.

My dc school place a lot of importance on the tutor time. Well being and all that. We are encouraged to email with the tutor if we have any questions or concerns. Our 1st parent teacher appt was in the first time just with the tutor so we could talk about how the children are settling in and any concerns. This all needs to be in place to make the teaching/ academic side work properly. Hard to be a good teacher without a pastoral eye on the children.

Pengggwn · 27/07/2018 12:38

MyOtherProfile

I don't like it either. It's very boring. Doesn't mean I don't do a good job of it.

Piggywaspushed · 27/07/2018 12:40

Perhaps you'd like to swap for my school where we have our 20 minutes after lunch. Their behaviour is always lovely then. Hmm

I think schools at least need to keep up the pretence that they care thna more about bums on seats in lessons and this is why we have form time. As an ex HOY I find this reluctant FT whining a bit draining. If kids were misbehaving in lessons you would take responsibility; if they were bored, you would take responsibility. But because it is form time , you - a qulaified teacher- are suddenly terribly deskilled and can't fill the time adequately or with a modicum of behaviour management, it seems. And I am not sure when hard pressed year staff are going to pick students up and/or deliver assemblies ( a statutory requirement)

What a strange time of year to start this thread! Is this really what you are thinking of a week into your holiday?

Anyway, if we finished earlier good Old Joe Public would see us as even lazier and/ or MATs would find somethign to fill that 'gained ' time.

And , lastly, not all kids are confident enough to approach a teacher, nor would many kids use their lunch time to do this, so what about those students. Just let them sink?

bigKiteFlying · 27/07/2018 12:41

That’s more a middle school isn’t it, BigKite?

Its a secondary school - 11 till 6th form.

But yr7 and 8 have different timetable to rest of school - bells go off in lessons for rest of school - and in rest of school lesson beel for those years go off.

They think it's better and sell it as a postive to parents - I had no idea till my eldest started there that they did this.

bigKiteFlying · 27/07/2018 12:42

bells for those years go off.

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