AIBU to not move from this seat?

[Namechangerr2018]

Hi all, I’m a regular poster that’s nc because I don’t want people to find me irl.

So today I was traveling into work on the DLR and the front seat became available (you can see where this is going). I took my chance and sat there because it’s quite frankly fun.

Next stop a family gets on and the DS starts having a tantrum because he can’t sit there (bear in mind it’s getting really full up).

His DM asked if I could move but as my hip was hurting I replied that I could not as I can’t stand for long journeys.

WIBU?

[HollowTalk]

I'd volunteer to move if nobody asked but I could tell the child was (quietly) wishing he/she was in my seat. I wouldn't if the child seemed entitled.

[Youtopia]

If there were no seats available elsewhere then I would definitely give up my seat for a four year.

Much safer for a four year old to be sitting rather than standing on public transport.

To me, you sound quite immature - you obviously do the route a lot so it's not like it's front seat novelty factor.

[Clionba]

"Small acts of kindness" is different to expectations. You shouldn't expect people to put themselves out for you, it's just extra special when they do.

[RedPony1]

To me, you sound quite immature - you obviously do the route a lot so it's not like it's front seat novelty factor.

I have no idea where you are reading that. It's not a childs right to sit wherever they want, my parents would never ever have allowed such behavior from us children.

[TrudeauGirl]

Small acts of kindness" is different to expectations. You shouldn't expect people to put themselves out for you, it's just extra special when they do.

I agree with this. It was the tantrum and the asking because of the tantrum that would bother me....the expectation.

An act of kindness is different.

[Frazzledmum123]

Totally agree with shegotbette and backstab, there is absolutely no way I'd ever ask and I do think it is rude but some of the attitudes on here are pathetic. The reason we let kids do these things above ourselves is because they are still learning. Someone offering them the front seat because it's exciting teaches them kindness and thinking of others and yes that might not be your job to do but I bet you'd be the first people to moan at rude teenager or thoughtless adults. The same goes when my toddler used to smile at adults and they totally ignored her, I don't expect people to care about my kid, or be interested in them but a quick smile costs nothing and teaches a child a lot. I think the parent was bu to ask but I also think a lot of you above are miserable gits too

[ChardonnaysPrettySister]

I don't know.

If someone asked nicely and if there were other seats available, then I would have.

Otherwise it's first come first served unless it's a priority seat.

[OutsideNumber79]

@Youtopia

And you sound like a pretentious, judgemental dick who has pretty poor reading comprehension, given that the OP stated she had a painful hip and couldn't stand.

Plus, four year olds stand on trains around London every single day. I did it throughout my childhood - it never did me any harm.

And also, fuck off with your superior 'immature' comment. The front seat in the DLR is fun. Things don't magically stop being fun when you turn 18. Just because you're a boring so and so...

[Backstabbath]

The OP is on her way to work and will get lots of opportunities to become driver again , a family on the DLR are more than likely to be visiting London.

He's a child excited about the possibility of getting to 'drive' a train.

sure we teach our children that life comes with disappointments and not to be entitled but come on you miserable bunch give the kid a break and make his day, he would remember that trip forever.

We talk about random acts of kindness to each other , can that not include kids as well.

[BreconBeBuggered]

It's the tantrum that would have put me off. Pretending to be the driver sounds brilliant but if there were other seats available I'd probably concede it to a small child once I'd had a little go. But one that's kicking off? I wouldn't give in to my own kids if they were behaving like that, and I'm not about to start indulging someone else's.

[ch0c0milkrox]

he can drive the train on the way back, unless another kid is in the seat :)

[Spikeyball]

The child's behaviour would have made no difference to me. Children are at different developmental levels in how they communicate and express disappointment. If I was going to do any judging it would be of the mothers response.

[Nothisispatrick]

I wouldn't have moved.

The OP is on her way to work and will get lots of opportunities to become driver again , a family on the DLR are more than likely to be visiting London.

Why more than likely? It's summer holidays and loads of families do actually live in London. It sounds like he knew about the seat so either he'd done it before or it's parents were hyping him up about it.

[Rebecca36]

No, not unreasonable at all. You had every right to the seat, you got there first and, as you say, your hip hurts if you stand for any length of time. Forget it.

[ScreamingValenta]

I didn't know this about DLR trains - next time I am in London I definitely want to do this! I agree with a PP that things don't stop being fun just because you're an adult!

[Backstabbath]

@Nothisispatrick

Visiting London or living in London on a family day out doesn't make a bit of difference to me really .

Still say if another seat was available I'd have made the child's day and let him drive.

Very small act of kindness by an adult would have made a huge difference to that child.

[SnotGoblin]

I think I was on the carriage with you this morning and if so, the mum asked you to swap seats rather than give your seat up and in my opinion ywbu to refuse.

[BottleOfJameson]

If there was another seat or you had no physical reason not to stand then while you don't have to move it would make you a bit of a knob. Since you do have an issue standing a d presumably there was no other seat then you absolutely shouldn't move. There's more than one seat at the front anyway and even if no one will move the parent should have explained to the child a front seat might not be available.

[Backstabbath]

The OP would not have been standing. She was asked to swap seats.
The OP has not said the train was standing room only. Just the train was filling up.

[strawberrisc]

Kids are a pain in the rear end. As are their parents (when they are like this)

[Clionba]

Backstabbath, I think the tantrum was a giveaway. It's public transport and children need to understand the rules. Then, if some kind person does give up the seat, it's a real treat and not an entitlement.

[mydogishot]

I'd have refused to move.
If the child plays up I'd judge the parent for not 'parenting'
I would never ask somebody to move on public transport.

The same sort of people park in bb spaces when p&c are full because little Tarquins legs are too delicate.

[LexieLulu]

I would not have moved either.

In the DM defence, sometimes tantrums are exhausting and constant that you just do things just to prevent them. She was wrong to ask you, but she might have been at her wits end that day

[Nothisispatrick]

I was questioning the 'more than likely visiting London'. Why is that the case? If it makes no difference why bring it up?

[Lunde]

Backstabbath - The OP is on her way to work and will get lots of opportunities to become driver again , a family on the DLR are more than likely to be visiting London.

OP has a hip problem and cannot stand for the journey

Honestly parents have become so entitled these days that their/their kids' wants mean that everyone else has to give way and move for them.

I was on a flight that ended up being delayed because of a tantrum from a late boarding mother who didn't like their seats and insisted that someone be moved because her 8 year old had to have a window seat!