To think a lot of people are jealous of teachers' holidays but...

[Pengggwn]

...too bitter about it to admit that they wouldn't be teachers themselves?

Just that really.

I have seen so many comments and threads aimed at dissecting teachers' pay and conditions to a forensic level, people complaining that teachers are available over the summer to answer their queries, people arguing that teachers should be working anyway or claim to be working even when they're not (I'm not, at least not for the next month).

And yet, we are in the middle of a teacher recruitment and retention crisis. We can't recruit and keep well-qualified teachers.

Where are all the volunteers??

Hear, hear sailorcherries. Scottish secondary teacher here and I'll be at the march and rally on Saturday in Glasgow. A pay cut of 24% in real terms over the past year is unacceptable. I'm replying to you as I sit with my Higher English marking - I'm 3 hours in and 3 more to do tomorrow night.

fullfact.org/education/teacher-retention-are-englands-teachers-leaving/

Shitland where are your stats that say more nurses are leaving than teachers? Your article shows figures of over 50,000 teachers leaving as does every other article which discusses the teacher retention crisis. Yes that includes those retiring etc which are also included in all the articles quoting nurses are leaving. Please find me a source that claims over 50,000 nurses left.
As for your other response- thanks for proving exactly the point being made on here.
I'm still waiting for the examples of nurse bashing too as I clearly missed that.
I haven't seen a single post where anyone has said teaching is harder than all other jobs yet that is still how some people choose to interpret it.

wildbhoys I'll also be at the march. Primary teacher here. I started my weekly plan at 9pm, still have maths to plan and then resources for literacy, numeracy, rme and idl to source/create. Then sort my homework for the week.

The 2017 stats. More people leaving teaching than training.
www.teachertoolkit.co.uk/2018/07/22/school-workforce-2017/

I think the major problem is that last month in my private sector job with 21 days holiday I worked an extra 6 days.
Unpaid.
The major problem I fear, is that a lot of people think that other people don’t work till midnight or work weekends to catch up. Or take calls over holidays,
I hate the race to the bottom mentality, but very few people work 9-5 it just doesn’t happen these days. AT ALL.

100 % teachers deserve their holiday, parents have no idea what their little angels are like out of their sight.
And the parents are harder work.

Completely agree,parents don’t know what kids are really like in school
In same respect partners,friends don’t really know what goes on in their respective workplace
But this in itself isn’t a surprising revelation as we all have numerous roles and demeanours

Things that have happened to me whilst teaching:
Deputy head's student son telling me the students should chain me up and kill me....then ME getting a hard time for telling Sit.( In a 30,000pa private school.)
In same exclusive school....pens lobbed at head, being filmed, sit making life unbearable and managing me out as I blew the whistle on bad behaviour.
In a different state school whilst pregnant....kid wrote on social media that they would kill my baby with a rugby ball then I get told it's my fault as my lessons aren't good enough!!!
In another school.....I tell a kid to put her chocolate bar away after being very rude to colleague then I get blamed for her behaviour.
Notice a theme here? Kids behave badly and teachers get blamed. Parents are too scared to discipline kids nowadays so they run riot...at home and school.

Slt sorry

And those were just a few tiresome incidents...bring back the birch...or at least take away the constant mollycoddling of our kids, get them used to showing respect and behaving and therefore bolster resilience.

You simply lost any credibility with bring back birch. How very inappropriate

Oh yes and SLT should get rid of this idea that ALL lessons must be entertaining....lessons should of course be well structured but all this lessons should be fun constantly bollocks is doing disservice to the kids. Kids that don't find interest in anything are boring themselves.

It was a joke....

But one that many people reiterate....bring back a sense of getting on with difficult subjects with a sense of decorum .

@malificent7
I’m not surprise you were treated how you were if I take the truth of what you’ve said on here.

It was a complete joke to get a reaction...the birch idea.... but kids know they have rights now with no responsibility and one use it against teachers...and parents

Fair enough,that much wasn’t evident.
I actually agree some parents can’t or won’t accept an account of their child behaviour
Teaching is a demanding skilled job that’s much misunderstood and misrepresented

Actually i was a kind teacher and would not hurt a child...but kids dont like kind teachers either. Tbe kids are out of control...and so are management.

This thread was started in July - why the fuck is it on the go again? Some weird kind of teacher bashing Groundhog Day?

Of course kids like and gravitate to kind teachers, they remember the good uns

Rain you rock up on pg8 to have a wtf moment
It’s a pertinent thread,irrespective of when it started

I loved my kind teacher. I can’t remember not liking a teacher who was honest and kind.
The ones who inherently didn’t like children you could smell. They were the ones who got it. Not by me I would like to add. But I could totally see why.
Every decent teacher had respect.

If you are kind they take the miss and if you are strict they take the piss.
And Millington barely ...it's parents like YOU who blame the teachers for their offspring's bad behaviour...oh miss is so mean...she deserved to be abused.

Bollocks. Respect is earned. Each way.