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To say, should HAVE / could HAVE / would HAVE?

138 replies

Basta · 22/07/2018 13:42

I know some people have learning difficulties, dyslexia, etc., but this is so common (surely more so than the incidence of dyslexia and so on) and it drives me bananas.

Also "your" being used to mean "you are".

I probably ABU to let it bother me (and to start a thread on it) but really, it's Year 2 stuff. Doesn't anybody read any more??

OP posts:
Shokjok · 22/07/2018 17:04

To be honest I know it’s should have, would have etc and I always always write it like this but due to my accent and the way people around me speak I almost always end up saying should of, so sometimes it sneaks into my writing. I wouldn’t say it’s anything major unless you’re writing an assignment for college or uni, so it wouldn’t annoy me to read should of.

SenecaFalls · 22/07/2018 17:07

Soshiny, drawer is pronounce draw and absolutely not draw-er.

That depends on whether your accent is rhotic or non-rhotic. Mine is rhotic so I pronounce the "r" in drawer.

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/07/2018 17:44

A large nationwide organisation I used to work for published a big shiny "management plan" with the title: " and it's Customers". I cringed every time I saw it.

HoobleDooble · 22/07/2018 18:23

I'm suffering from an outbreak of 'was'. We was, they was ... it's were for crying out loud we WERE, they WERE, you WERE.

unicornfarts · 22/07/2018 21:11

Really? I could've sworn I was taught 'rooves' was permissible at school in the mid 80s. Not a word I use often though so I just assumed spelling had moved on!

unicornfarts · 22/07/2018 21:13

The internet tells me I must've had a very old school teacher!

Barbie222 · 22/07/2018 21:16

I have those words in the word jail in my classroom - it's strange how many parents ask about it. I think there must have been a few years where it wasn't really drilled down.

Brahumbug · 22/07/2018 22:56

On Saturday in a restaurant, I saw on the menu Panini's, ffs!l Panini plural to begin with (singular panino) snd it doesn't need a possessive plual on the end.
I saw someone criticize ain't earlier on, ain't is a perfectly good contraction.

TSSDNCOP · 22/07/2018 23:13

Regional pronounciation doesn’t piss me off anywhere near as much as the deliberate murder of grammar.

It’s as though some people almost relish idiocy, when confronted with the obvious.

There are exceptions Seneca, and that’s ok. But can we at least all agree that in the face of an error, one should correct rather than defend to improve?

TSSDNCOP · 22/07/2018 23:15

And it’s late and wine has been taken so I readily accept a caning for the missing commas in my post Wink

AtSea1979 · 22/07/2018 23:21

What bugs me alot is when folk could of put “you’re” but instead put “your” it really greats and wen folk should of put “were” but instead put “we was”.

itsbritneybiatch · 22/07/2018 23:25

I can't get worked up about it. Sometimes I can't be arsed to correct things.

But I hate people who push in.

RoseWhiteTips · 22/07/2018 23:43

Correction is key. If people don’t like it - when you are actually trying to do them a favour - I call that ungrateful.

SenecaFalls · 22/07/2018 23:50

But can we at least all agree that in the face of an error, one should correct rather than defend to improve?

But we can't even always agree on what is error in English, it being primarily a descriptive, rather than prescriptive, language.

Polestar50 · 23/07/2018 03:46

Another one that I have started to hear and read more frequently is ‘text’ used in the past tense. “She text last night” rather than “She texted last night” or ‘She sent a text last night”.

The explanation is that, when spoken, the word “text” sounds as though it already ends in ‘ed’ so some people say it seems odd and clunky to add another ‘ed’ sound.

I am not sure why but this one bothers me even more than “would of/should of”

echt · 23/07/2018 04:46

unicornfarts - I remember rooves.

In primary in the 60s and now in my own 60s, I still write 'phone and 'plane as taught back in the day. I don't judge those who don't. Ignoramuses:o

"Should of" does my head in.

PirateWeasel · 23/07/2018 05:42

My current peeve is another Americanism..."just a couple minutes". Argh!!! OF minutes, for Heaven's sake. A couple OF minutes!

JohnnyLisaMark · 23/07/2018 05:47

I hate the use of "amount" when it should be "number".

E.g. "The amount of people who get this wrong is astounding".

Cousinit · 23/07/2018 05:53

Yes it drives me mad too. As you say, it's something to be learnt in early primary school and quite frankly not difficult at all. I don't think being annoyed by this is being a "grammar nazi" as it's hardly a complicated concept is it?

SadieContrary · 23/07/2018 07:40

*xJessica
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I'm guilty of confusing did/done and seen/saw and have to assume it's a colloquialism as I was never picked up on it til I moved away. Now, no matter how many times I hear the explanation, I still cannot get it right.

Poor grammar really irks me so now if talking about a tv show, I'd reply, "I watched that" or if something is completed, "I finished that" etc. it's quite mentally draining but now I'm so conscious of folk thinking that I'm an uneducated idiot so it's better to find an alternate word. Blush

Bibesia · 23/07/2018 07:58

I don't really get the defensiveness generally seen on MN in relation to bad grammar. Most people on here have children who, like it or not, are having to take tests and exams where they will be penalised for bad grammar. Therefore we are doing them no favours by setting a bad example and/or letting them think it doesn't matter. If they write "could of" in an exam they will instantly be marked down, so it can only help them if they only ever hear "could have" at home.

harrietm87 · 23/07/2018 09:03

@AtSea1979 is your post a joke? Have you read the Op?!

(It's should HAVE and would HAVE, not "should of").

Also "a lot" is two separate words.

echt · 23/07/2018 09:16

My current peeve is another Americanism..."just a couple minutes". Argh!!! OF minutes, for Heaven's sake. A couple OF minutes!

I wonder if the US usage is related to their saying "in back of" instead of "at the back of". It's usually about a house or other building.

Buswankeress · 23/07/2018 09:17

I have read a lot since childhood, and I think that's where I've picked up some of good habits, but I'm by no means an expert. I make mistakes all the time and I think my ability has declined, especially in spelling, because of predicative text and spell check functions. I have always struggled with alot and a lot. Your, you're, their, there, and they're are all second nature mostly, I think because I learned (not learnt!) the words first and then the contraction. So I would start with 'You are' and then learned that the apostrophe could be used to shorten the word, removing letters and adding the apostrophe making 'You're'.
However, someone has mentioned the use of "DH and I have been invited to..."
Is this incorrect? I was taught at school to use that rather than "Me and DH", the explanation was that it was 'rude' to put yourself first in the sentence, and secondly using 'me' instead of 'I' was incorrect. I wouldn't even think of using 'myself' as a substitute for 'I' or 'Me'.
I was also taught that names, referring to yourself as I, and after full stops should always be capital letters too. I see lower case 'I' a lot and names written with a starting letter in lower case.

Not really a grammar issue but itch and scratch really pisses me off. I'm not sure if it's a local thing or not.
Person points to patch of red skin
"I've been itching that all day" when they mean they've been scratching it.
Or -
"Look at the dog itching his ear"
The dog is SCRATCHING his ear!!

On a lighter note, this thread has brought to mind a quote I once came across on Facebook about grammar, spelling and the correct use of capital letters being important......

"Helping your uncle jack off a horse"

Translates to

"Helping your Uncle Jack, off of a horse"

I'm not sure the second one is actually correct though Blush

HoomanMoomin · 23/07/2018 09:24

YANBU.

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