Nursery sending out photos to other parents

[jumbojumbo]

My daughter had a sports day at nursery on the last day of term. At the event we were told no photographs allowed however one of the staff members was taking photos and videos. Later that day a message popped up on WhatsApp and it was the nursery sending numerous photos and a video of the event. These photos include close ups of my daughter. On the joining form I have already expressed that I do not want photographs to be shared on websites etc. Am I being unreasonable to find this wrong? I find it disturbing that all parents have been sent these photos and now have a copy of them. The paranoia in me thinks what if one of the parents is a peadophile unlikey of course but you never know. Thoughts?

YANBU to be annoyed that the nursery sent photos of your DD out to everyone. You’ve signed the form stating this is not allowed so you definitely should complain when you next go back in. They need to be more aware of who has and hasn’t approved.

However, I really don’t think you need to worry about her photo falling into unsafe hands within this group. Don’t even mention that in your complaint, it takes it off on a tangent that isn’t necessary.

What’s a paedophile going to do with a standard photo of your child - what a weird concern!

That’s appalling! There’s plenty of good reasons why a parent or carer would not give a setting permission to share photos of their children. Doing so without permission demonstrates a real lack of safeguarding.

If you're going to be paranoid about paedophiles, then it might be worth learning how to spell it.

This is a major breach, and yes I think you need to pursue it.

The pic needs to be taken down and you should receive a fulsome apology, plus information on what steps they are taking to ensure that they never again publish pictures when they do not have authority to do so.

Breach of GDPR. Whatever reason you have, a breach is a breach

A peado could just as easily take pictures of your DD in the park and I'm not sure what they would do with them.

OTOH if you've said you want your child not to be in public photos they should respect that. (Having said that I think lots of schools are pretty terrible at actually sticking to that - I know a few no photo kids at DS's school and they're always on Facebook).

WowLookAtYou thanks for that utterly constructive comment.

Ok i guess the paedophile bit was a bit OTT, I just feel uncomfortable with other parents having copies to do with as they please. Thanks for all for your replies, I will definitely be pursuing it once the nursery reopens.

The form you have signed would be for social media and websites so anything in a public forum, unfortunately a group chat on WhatsApp is not included in that category as its not accessible by anyone other than the parents so the school have not gone against the form you signed. I do think you are being overly paranoid, maybe it if was a swimming thing and children were not fully clothed then I'd worry but in full clothing I think it is a bit of an overreaction in my opinion.

There should have been separate questions when you were asked about photo-sharing, one for website/fb and one for WhatsApp. Our crèche sends daily photos on WhatsApp, which we’ve agreed to, though we’ve said no to online sharing.

YADNBU and under GDPR they are breaking the law doing this.

Don't listen to PPs scoffing at your concern. There are very good reasons as to why nurseries and schools shouldn't share photos of children when parents have refused consent. And you don't have to give anyone those reasons or justify your decision. It's terrible that they've done this.

I’d explain the situation if I were you. It’s totally unacceptable for them to have breached you’re right as a parent not wanting photos shared to all and sundry.

wow seriously?

I'm guessing you signed a form for public distribution- for example their website. Not a private group where photos were shared.

Due to data protection there not allowed by law, put a complaint in and get them removed

Snowy that doesn't matter, they shouldn't be publishing them anywhere.

There's another Mum at my DD's School who escaped a violent marriage, police were useless so she didn't get a conviction but she got a non-molestation order and changed her and her child's names then moved 300 miles away. If he knew where they were she'd 100% be in danger, and she loves her life looking over her shoulder. She tells people his so they don't take pictures of her DD at events then share them on Facebook and tag 50 family member etc. In this day and age it's a huge risk, and it's never acceptable for nurseries to publish photos in this way

If the nursery has a policy of asking parents for permission before they take and distribute photos then they should enforce the decision of parents who opt out.

However what exactly do you think other parents will do with a photo of your child that makes you worried about them having it? The paedophile worry is not just OTT, it’s stratospherically over the top.

If you have signed for no photos to be shared on websites or social media that includes Whatsapp.

I would be very upset, although would probably just address it by saying you did not give permission for photos to be shared in any form - their permission option should have covered all options and if it doesn't they should assume no means no to all things if they have no other info or their permissions are written badly.

As others had said, I would avoid stating reasons why - it is not necessary why you don't want things shared. You said no.

No you're right, they are completely in the wrong to do that and should pull their socks up in future.

Was the sports day in a public place?

I think your best course of action is to ask for the photos to be removed.

To clear some things up, I cannot remember exactly what the form expressed about photo sharing but it was mainly websites etc. All of the options on there I opted out of. There was definitely no social media/WhatsApp option as the nursery does not use these. This is the first time WhatsApp has ever been used.

To all those who are also asking what paedophiles can do with innocent images, I gently suggest that you do a bit of research. Google "Do you know where your child's image is?" and read the top article.

Taken from said article:

“(A pedophile) might like the way a particular child looks, so they take that face and morph it onto another shot they’ve come across online of a child sexual abuse image,” said Signy Arnason, director of Winnipeg-based Cypertip.ca, operated by the Canadian Centre for Child Protection.

Also to add, it's not even possible to ask for these photos to be removed as they were sent as individual messages to each parent. So it would mean asking each parent to delete the photos which just isn't going to happen.

GDPR no longer applies in England. It has now been replaced with the Data Protection Act 2018 due to us leaving the EU. Most rules under GDPR does still fall under our new legislation though but just thought I'd point that out.

GDPR still applies in the UK and organisations still have to comply with this regulation.

The Data Protection Act 2018 has a part that transposes the EU Data Protection Directive 2016/680 (Law Enforcement Directive) into domestic UK law and also has a part dealing with processing that does not fall within EU law.