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Bloody loud kids in the communal pool all day, everyday.

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DavidBowiesNumber1 · 18/07/2018 14:53

We've recently moved into a new house on a small development - 20 houses, at present only 10 sold, of those 10 only 5 of us are permanent residents.
Not in the UK.
Up until about 3 weeks ago everything was peaceful, harmonious, pretty idyllic. Then the "holiday homers" arrived.
Now, out of the 5 nonresident households, 3 have lots of children ranging in ages of about 1 to 13 years old. Approx' 9 children between them but every day there are friends arriving to spend the day (and sometime night) at the pool.
Now I'm all for kids enjoying themselves and its lovely to see them doing something other than sitting indoors in front of a tv/tablet/phone/games console but AIBU in thinking that the parents (who are rarely at the pool) should A) be keeping an eye on them and B) be telling them to hush down a bit?
All we can hear from morning 'til night (up to 12.15am this morning) is the children shouting, screaming, jumping in the pool etc.
It's incredibly hot here (40c+ in the day, never dips below 32c at night) so all doors and windows are open therefore the noise carries everywhere.
If we want to use the pool we have to dodge bombing children/passing li-los/random balls and floats along with said 'DC'.
We would just like to enjoy our downtime and relax. Is that too much to ask?

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TheMonkeyMummy · 19/07/2018 17:30

Well after a hot hot hot day sight seeing a castle and a rare car collection, where my kids didn't run around or even slightly misbehave, we are off to the pool where they can shriek to their hearts content. Because they are entitled little shits and I can't be arsed to parent them apparently not at all because they have been so well behaved all day they deserve time to be kids and let off some steam. Grin

TheMonkeyMummy · 19/07/2018 17:31

We will be back in our apartment for 20:00 though

JacquesHammer · 19/07/2018 17:31

we are off to the pool where they can shriek to their hearts content

Oh well that’s ok. Because they behaved earlier they can scream as much as they want?

My you have low standards

juneau · 19/07/2018 17:58

YANBU OP and I'm the DM of two DC aged 10 and 7. I fucking hate screaming DC and all those who say that DC can have fun without screaming are dead right! If my kids scream I immediately tell them to be quiet and that no one wants to hear them screaming. And no, I'm not a 'pearl clutcher' or 'precious', I'm considerate of other people, which unless you have a villa with pool up a hill from others so they can't hear your DC's noise is just common decency - an attribute that is frequently lacking these days.

chillpizza · 19/07/2018 18:03

There is no need for any child above toddler age to be screaming unless they are in danger need help fast. They can talk they can even be louder than a normal talk but they don’t need to scream and shout and shriek.

If the pool shuts at a certain time nobody should be in it after that time, if a pool states adult supervision then adults should be supervising, if it states no glasses etc then no glasses.

It’s simple follow the rules the pool is there for all home owners to enjoy not just a few the rules are there for safety reasons.

I’m sure people would be fuming to end up with chlorine burn from going in the pool too soon, if their child drowned from lack of supervision no doubt they would call for the pool to be closed or if they cut their foot on some broken glass that’s ended up in the pool and I bet the same people letting their children run riot will be complaining about noise when their children have grown up.

DavidBowiesNumber1 · 19/07/2018 18:30

I am curious that you are not allowed air con? In 40 degree heat that is just not on. Have you got preinstalled air con but no unit? Are you on 2 or 3 floors which is making it so expensive? Am just being nosey here as we have the air con man coming tomorrow to fit a unit (only one floor so not too expensive) Pur house has three floors so for separate AC units it would be ridiculously expensive, if we were allowed. The reason we can't have AC (even if we could afford it) is that the exterior of the houses must not be changed, so the motor on the walls are a no-go. Also the houses were built with pipework for a special (I didn't really understand) cooling/heating system but that costs over a years salary to be fitted. Plus the extortionate electricity costs we would incurre each month. We've never had AC due to the leccie cost so were kind of used to coping with the hear, as much as we can.

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DavidBowiesNumber1 · 19/07/2018 18:34

It’s simple follow the rules the pool is there for all home owners to enjoy not just a few the rules are there for safety reasons. And despite more or less being told I'm a child-hating monster of a bitch this is my main concern. Safety first!

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WendyCope · 19/07/2018 18:38

Yes, I have a/c and put it on only as a 'treat'. At night I don't want it on anyway, I want the windows open. I like fresh air, even though atm it is like a hairdryer.

My leccy bill was 90 euros this month alone and is normally 40.

It is bloody expensive to have on.

DavidBowiesNumber1 · 19/07/2018 18:41

And while I'm back on, for those PPs bleating on about the fact people are on holiday, so will act in this manner - why should the 30% of holidaying households make the lives of the 70% residential households a pain? They knew when they bought that there would be residents.

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WendyCope · 19/07/2018 18:42

child hating monster of a bitch Grin Don't forget culturally unaware!!!

Me too, 15 years here, a child of this nationality plus a husband plus a property plus a job plus paying tax.

No, no, I just arrived, drunk, from Benidorm (according to neighbours) and I certainly don't wear a bikini top!

WendyCope · 19/07/2018 18:45

I'm sick of 'holiday makers' and their stupid morals going out the window 'because they're somewhere hot' or 'on holiday'.

WE are trying to LIVE.

lisahpost · 19/07/2018 18:45

Kids should be able to play shout make nosie and jump in the pool (within safety reasons and being supervised ) during the day and early evening without idiots moaning about it . Don’t like it then live or holiday in an adult only place !

However come about 8pm or so I’d never ever let mine make nosie and unless it was badly hot with no AC I’d not let them in the pool past that time . It’s jsut shit to let kids disturb peoples evenings and nights when you can take them to the beach or a play park where it is a child’s environment designed precisely for them to make noise .

Till midnight is ridiculous and they should be supervised . Why do people let their kids go to pools insupervised anyway ?

lisahpost · 19/07/2018 18:47

That was unsupervised not insupervised .... my phone is stupid !

lisahpost · 19/07/2018 18:51

Thought to be honest when it comes to daytime pool playing I also don’t let my kids in the pool during siesta time where that’s usually done or where there are a lot of older couples who take naps in the midday heat ...... it’s not an issue in hotels but sometimes in villas and apartments it is .... common courtesy I think .

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agedknees · 19/07/2018 18:56

the Only reason we considered air con was for future years when (if)we are gifted with grandkids. They would be more comfy.

HappilyHarridan · 19/07/2018 19:10

I was allowed to be a kid, when I was a kid, and I had a lot of fun, especially on pool holidays. But was brought up not to throw balls around Ina pool where people are trying to swim, and not to leap around screaming when other people are trying to swim. It didn't ruin my fun, I still had a brilliant time. Hulk give kids credit for having some imagination, if they aren't allowed to dive bomb and throw balls around there are still a million other ways they can have a brill time at the pool, whilst allowing other members of the community to use it too.

cheval · 19/07/2018 19:46

Have a chat with parents? Tell them of your concerns.

ChrisNReed · 19/07/2018 19:54

Caveat Emptor
They are on holiday

mathanxiety · 19/07/2018 19:55

...we obviously realised that more people would be here in the summer but didn't realise that the children wouldn't be supervised and/or kept under some sort of control.

YABVU to expect that the parents would spend their holidays shushing their children near the pool.

Even at my local public pool (not in the ME but we get very hot summers) you can hear the din as you drive past, and this at family swim time with parents or caregivers present. You constantly hear the lifeguards shouting 'WALK' to the kids racing around the pool perimeter. They are kids. It is summer. The lifeguards don't take it personally that it goes in one ear and out the other.

British tend to have the kids be seen and not heard approach more than other cultures.
YY to this.

We've been in apartments the last 3-4 years so have had neighbours above, below, left and right (nightmare!).
There are a few more British assumptions and British conditioning at play here.

The kids can be in the pool constantly, but does that HAVE to mean that others can't? Does it HAVE to mean that others can't relax in their houses, gardens, wherever without the constant noise?
No, it doesn't have to mean that others can't relax or go to the pool. Others choose how to react. You could choose to go with the flow and check your anxiety levels. Mindfulness, acceptance, a sense of perspective would all go a long way to a happier you. Policing the pool behaviour, setting up rules that have to be policed, staying out of the water until there is nobody else there - all of that brings you back to your life in Britain. You are living somewhere else now, moreover somewhere that is hot and where there is a pool, and families with children.

I'm absolutely dreading getting kids on the same side as us
Maybe stop the dreading? You seem to be in the grip of an unusual amount of anxiety and pissed-offiness.

I have observed that there are some British types who do not feel completely comfortable unless there are rules posted everywhere and a good deal of enforcement. The urban area where I live draws a good few tourists and it is interesting to people-watch near one particular attraction where you can run around in a fountain that springs out of the pavement.
You can't seriously not see the issue here though?
Consideration, manners, respect for others. Are these all just old fashioned values now
This is the sort of tutting I have heard in various British accents - and only in British accents - while all around them there are adults and children of all nationalities getting soaked, yelling, children zipping in and out of the water and everyone having a good time, with the whole spectacle bothering nobody but the people who can't cope without the rules.

The common denominator in all this upset (neighbours in an apartment building and pool scenario) is the OP, who is not living in her native Britain any more and apparently finding other nationalities' norms hard to deal with.

(Agreeing with @TheHulksPurplePanties)

And you should install AC. I know it is against the rules, but take a walk on the wild side and do it anyway. The rule against AC is ridiculous and in any case, who is checking? You could possibly find an energy saving model to install in your top floor so the cold air can filter down. Run it at night.

mathanxiety · 19/07/2018 20:00

...brought up not to throw balls around Ina pool where people are trying to swim, and not to leap around screaming when other people are trying to swim. It didn't ruin my fun, I still had a brilliant time. Hulk give kids credit for having some imagination, if they aren't allowed to dive bomb and throw balls around there are still a million other ways they can have a brill time at the pool

Where I live, adults are expected to have more of a sense of perspective. This means that children can have a ball at the pool and the adults who might not like the diving and the ball games can go to the lap swim sessions. At 6 am. It is assumed that if you are genuinely serious about your swimming you will be willing to get up to do it at that time.

It is also assumed that adults who complain that there is childish behaviour going on in a pool that is heaving with children are unreasonable curmudgeons.

JacquesHammer · 19/07/2018 20:01

YABVU to expect that the parents would spend their holidays shushing their children near the pool

Yeah, how awful to expect parents to waste THEIR holiday parenting Grin

mathanxiety · 19/07/2018 20:03

Shushing children near a pool is a completely futile exercise.

It's not 'parenting' and it's not necessary.

JacquesHammer · 19/07/2018 20:04

Shushing children near a pool is a completely futile exercise

I’m sorry your kids don’t listen. Mine does.

It's not 'parenting' and it's not necessary

It is parenting. There are just parents who are too lazy to do it. Fortunately we holiday where excessive noise and unsupervised children aren’t tolerated.

TheHulksPurplePanties · 19/07/2018 20:14

Thank you mathanxiety nice to see another person understands that British cultural norms do not extend worldwide.

As for those questioning whether I know the country the OP is on, she made it fairly obvious. There are not many predominately Muslim countries with temps over 40, that aren't in the ME, that will let eu citizens buy, but not supply air conditioning.

I was genuinely trying to protect her privacy by not saying that she's in generally Asia/Africa.