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Has Trump Turned Traitor? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/07/2018 11:24

The Trump-Putin Summit in Helsinki, coming so soon after Trump’s ally-crumbling display in Britain and at the EU, is still sinking in. Let’s just say: he’s in all kinds of shit. All the kompromat.

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lionheart · 26/07/2018 01:42

Renato Mariotti

Verified account

@renato_mariotti
50m50 minutes ago

'It appears the Rosenstein impeachment is just a political stunt that has no real chance of success. But it will still generate coverage on Fox News and create heartburn for Rosenstein and other DOJ employees who have important work to do.'

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:21

Lawrence O'Donnell
@Lawrence
“several colleagues” means 7. This tiny cult in the House is regarded as insane by the rest of the Republicans.
Mark Meadows
@RepMarkMeadows
I just filed a resolution with @Jim_Jordan and several colleagues to impeach Rod Rosenstein. The DOJ has continued to hide information from Congress and repeatedly obstructed oversight--even defying multiple Congressional subpoenas.
We have had enough.
mobile.twitter.com/Lawrence/status/1022354305154723841

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:27

Lawrence O'Donnell
@Lawrence
This is how @MarkMeadows tries to protect @Jim_Jordan from questions about the wrestlers who say Jordan refused to protect them from sexual abuse.

@FoxNews
House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against Rosenstein (link: fxn.ws/2NKwRWL) fxn.ws/2NKwRWL

Lawrence O'Donnell
@Lawrence

This is how @Jim_Jordan tries to get Ohio voters to ignore Ohio State wrestlers saying he refused to protect them from sexual abuse.

@FoxNews
House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against Rosenstein (link: fxn.ws/2NKwRWL) fxn.ws/2NKwRWL
mobile.twitter.com/Lawrence/status/1022347090964488192
mobile.twitter.com/Lawrence/status/1022346499194322944

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:33

Bobby Kogan
@BBKogan
I really don’t think there’s enough national focus on what the North Carolina Republican Party is doing. If we saw another country doing this, we’d call them a sham democracy.

@Taniel
The NC GOP has staged a deluge of political and legislative coups this decade to maintain & consolidate power regardless of election results. How do we even keep up or summarize all of it? [1/]
Show this thread
mobile.twitter.com/BBKogan/status/1022317585357058048

@Taniel
This, & the fact that more than 10% of Floridians (and more than 20% of black Floridians) are disenfranchised. The situation was made worse & more arbitrary by a governor who's now running in the electorate he restricted. How do we pretend to cover FL's elections as democratic?
mobile.twitter.com/Taniel/status/1022319796111769600

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:35

'In abrupt shift, Trump makes nice with EU, gets tough on Russia.
Few people close to the president believe he has changed much, but the White House appears sensitive to mounting criticism.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/07/25/trump-russia-european-union-juncker-742718

Gumpendorf · 26/07/2018 07:36

Ominous.

Mueller needs to indict Roger Stone, and if Cohen really is putting country first then he needs to stop playing games. Smile

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:37

'Trump team tries to show spine on Russia.
Wednesday’s actions were seen as an attempt to calm both critics and allies who alike have expressed concern over the president’s performance at a summit with Vladimir Putin.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/07/25/pompeo-trump-russia-election-meddling-741039

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:42

'Trump And Putin Won't Hold U.S. Summit Until Next Year, White House Says.
Their meeting will take place "after the Russia witch hunt is over," national security adviser John Bolton said.'
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-putin-meeting-delayed_us_5b58c3c2e4b0fd5c73cb3257

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:47

@BillKristol
Have seen this in other polls too: Trump’s re-elect numbers much lower than his approval. People can somewhat approve of Trump but not be on board for another four years.
Matt McDermott
@mattmfm
Trump won or nearly won Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. But huge majorities of voters in each of these states say that Trump does NOT deserve reelection. These are absolutely abysmal reelect numbers.

mobile.twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1022234034200608775

PerkingFaintly · 26/07/2018 07:50

I'm just wandering in with Brew for everyone's hard work, and will be settling down to work through some of the Maddow pieces from earlier in the week.

Gumpendorf · 26/07/2018 07:53

Bill Shine oversaw what was, according to many accounts, a harassment reign of terror at Fox News, where Roger Ailes blackmailed, intimidated & harassed woman after woman. Shine's role in maintaining that system of degradation and discrimination ended up costing him his job.

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1022261753533685760

Brew Perking Smile**

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:54

✋'Cos they don't care:
Monica Alba
@albamonica
NEW statement from WHCA President @OKnox on White House banning @kaitlancollins from open press event today after she asked questions (as network pooler) that they didn’t like
mobile.twitter.com/albamonica/status/1022247498742677504

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 07:58

I'm just listening to last night's Ms Maddow, with Brew, now, Perking.

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 08:10

It's tough when someone you love plays hard to get. Sad:

@kaitlancollins

This after Trump didn't answer my questions on why Putin hadn't accepted his invitation to visit this fall yet.

@kaitlancollins
Statement from the pool on John Bolton: “The President believes that the next bilateral meeting with President Putin should take place after the Russia witch hunt is over, so we’ve agreed that it will be after the first of the year.”

@kaitlancollins

The Kremlin hasn't accepted Trump's invitation to visit Washington this fall.

@kaitlancollins
Statement from the pool on John Bolton: “The President believes that the next bilateral meeting with President Putin should take place after the Russia witch hunt is over, so we’ve agreed that it will be after the first of the year.”

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 08:17

Big announcement about not very much:
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/07/25/politics/trump-juncker-tariffs-trade/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 08:21

🙈🙉
Manu Raju
@mkraju
GOP says it isn't paying attention to news of Trump on tape talking about paying off a women to silence her story about an alleged affair just days before election, contradicting what his campaign told the public. "I don't know enough to evaluate that." (link: www.snappytv.com/tc/8565444) snappytv.com/tc/8565444
1:46 am · 26 Jul 2018
mobile.twitter.com/mkraju/status/1022281875757441024

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 08:25

2+2=4:
@jeffzeleny
This is a statement from ⁦*@PressSec*⁩ — but it doesn’t mention Trump often answers questions in this same forum. Or decides not to. His choice. The only difference today: questions were about Michael Cohen, a sign that his secret recordings are touching a presidential nerve?
mobile.twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1022263343002861569

Minimammoth · 26/07/2018 09:22

You’ve got to give it to Donald he always achieves the impossible. Grin

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 09:33

The Emoluments Case Opinion.
It's long. Lawrence O'Donnell recommends pages 48/9 as partic. compelling argument:
apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=4618175-Trump-Emoluments-case-opinion-July-25

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 09:36

It's access to docs like the above that make me love the interweb 😻

Roussette · 26/07/2018 09:57

That's an interesting doc. Mimi. I've always found it gobsmacking that the rules do not appear to apply to Trump. Of course he is benefitting from the Presidency through his hotels etc.
The Secret Service pay $70,000 for golf carts at a Trump property every time he goes go golfing! Let along all the other payments by foreign Govts. to his hotels mentioned in that document (every time a ME foreign dignatary arrives, they stay at a Trump hotel, I just can't understand why this is allowed).
But it all started when he refused to release his tax returns, first time ever for a President. And Walter Shaub, head of Ethics resigned.... luckily he is still very verbal on Twitter

Roussette · 26/07/2018 09:58

*Let alone (not along)
*dignitary

Can't type

BolleauxtoBankers · 26/07/2018 10:12

Roussette, I repeat what everyone is saying and has been saying since Trump got elected - can you imagine what would have happened if Obama had done even a millionth of what Trump has got away with so far? It's mind-boggling what the GOP let him get away with.

ohmymimi · 26/07/2018 10:15

It will be interesting to see if this lawsuit has legs, Roussette. And it could end up at a SCOTUS with two Oaf appointed justices Hmm