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AIBU?

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hubby says he has seen a ghost five times so far.

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lowresidue · 16/07/2018 22:21

Hubby has taken our dog to a local wood, and lets the dog go for a run.
He goes at different times and different days.
He came home and told me that he has seen the same woman ghost five separate times so far. Tonight with bonnet wearing woman made him jump when she popped up in front of him. When he said 'you made me jump', she smiled nodded and walked away from him.

He was quite serious but I asked why he thought she was a dead/ ghost? He said because she is wearing a long coat and a bonnet type hat.
AIBU to suggest that this woman isn't dead, isn't a ghost and is an odd lady with a strange fashion sense?
He is quite firm she is a ghost, and walks along the path but not on it though the trees.

personally I am glad we are going on holiday soon my hubby really needs it asap.
Then again AIBU?

OP posts:
BertrandRussell · 19/07/2018 13:49

I know people who have absolute certainty about the afterlife. They are more certain of it that I am certain there is not one,

AnxiousPeg · 19/07/2018 13:50

But you know they don't know know, don't you?

53rdWay · 19/07/2018 13:54

What I do say is that there is no evidence for these things at this point. People really must remember this distinction.

But we don’t, in general, as humans, do we? We round up to ‘no evidence at all, so no’ all the time. We function in the world by setting standards of ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ for ourselves. I’m happy to say with confidence that there are no pink spotted unicorns in Switzerland, for example.

Littledidsheknow · 19/07/2018 13:56

Ah, ghosts!

Can anyone explain why they wear clothes?
And why they appear as they do... generally looking OK and walking about, not ill or bloodied and at the point of death.
And if their death appearance isn't what people see, why do they appear at the age they do... why couldn't an old lady ghost appear as her 6 year old self instead?

Alleycat1 · 19/07/2018 13:57

Anyway, to get back on track, OP have you walked in the woods with DH yet? Did he/you/both of you see the woman?

headinhands · 19/07/2018 14:08

I’m happy to say with confidence that there are no pink spotted unicorns in Switzerland

Why?

headinhands · 19/07/2018 14:14

What do you think it would be like if we all knew for sure we had an immortal soul?

Ii would be good and bad wouldn't it. Depending on what it was. And you're right. The fleetingness does make it precious (she says having sat on her arse most of the day). But that's not enough for some is it. I think the idea of an afterlife also helps people cope with the inequality of life. Thinking that everything gets ironed out as it were.

53rdWay · 19/07/2018 14:14

Ah, is this the Socratic part where you talk me through my thought processes and my unconscious assumptions until I come to understand why all rational people would suspend belief in ghosts/fairies/gods/pink Swiss unicorns?

In which case I’m sure you don’t need me to be actually around for the conversation. Feel free to fill in whatever it is you’d think I’d say Smile

headinhands · 19/07/2018 14:32

Gotcha!

53rdWay · 19/07/2018 14:36

Well okay then!

Shiftymake · 19/07/2018 14:55

Sixth Sense, hunches, spirits/ghosts, anything that can't be logically explained does not mean there is no cause for these things. We might not have the technology to detect and monitor these things yet, who knows in this day and age. I have never seen a ghost but I have had the "pleasure" of communicating with something apparently a spirit/ghost type. I live near a castle and a known battlefield but I don't see any activity, but someone else might.

As much as I enjoy seeing some skeptics settling down to shed their light on their opinions does not mean that it is fine to disrespect people and their experiences. Not all of us are using drugs or medication, neither are we unintelligent or not skeptical ourselves. But judging people just because you are unable to comprehend that something odd has happened to that person and the theories to what may be the cause may not match up with experiences does not give any of you the right to claim any knowledge about this. YOU don't believe, fine, move on.

It is really annoying when you know that logically this things shouldn't happen, yet it is, then have someone come a long and try to minimize or change the situation to suit their ideas of how things should be. I am very careful to judge people with their experiences as everything doesn't necessarily have a logical explanation.

Handsinhead: You didn't get the caveman reference, the point is most of us do not live in caves or stay there long enough to validate cavemen ghosts or not. I don't see ghosts so for all I know I have one jumping up and down waving at me trying to grab my attention. Grin

headinhands · 19/07/2018 15:04

You didn't get the caveman reference, the point is most of us do not live in caves or stay there long enough to validate cavemen g

Yeah that's why I clarified early hominids as opposed to humans living in caves which wasn't actually that common was it.

headinhands · 19/07/2018 15:07

As for your other points. I haven't disrespect or judged people here. Certainly haven't said I think people who believe in ghosts are insane or whatever the words you used were.

headinhands · 19/07/2018 15:09

minimize or change the situation to

Some may see a psychological cause as minimising. I think such a cause is fascinating. There's nothing minimal about the human's mind being able to create all manner of scenarios.

headinhands · 19/07/2018 15:14

I am very careful to judge people with their experiences as everything doesn't necessarily have a logical explanation

But too often people feel that if there currently isn't a logical explanation that it has to be supernatural. Not that we just don't have it yet. So far everything we thought was woo that' we now understand has turned out to be physics/biology/chemistry etc such as electric/stars/epilepsy and so on. (To be fair even Jesus thought epilepsy was demon possession!)

It reminds me of the god of the gaps. And it seems to be what is happening here. That the area that the supernatural inhabits is becoming smaller and smaller.

headinhands · 19/07/2018 15:14

Okay, so I haven't painted the lounge but I have filled the holes in.

BertrandRussell · 19/07/2018 15:30

I’ve baked 5 carrot cakes and 5 trays of brownies.

BertrandRussell · 19/07/2018 15:32

“And why they appear as they do... generally looking OK and walking about, not ill or bloodied and at the point of death.“

Nearly Headless Nick was’t looking very well..........

LuluJakey1 · 19/07/2018 15:33

Anyone got any possible explanations for what DH and I saw? (see upthread)

Tattygran14 · 19/07/2018 15:34

I knew a lady who lived for a while in our street with her daughter. They had been to my house, so I knew them reasonably well. They moved about a mile away, so I saw her less often. She often wore a black and white checked coat.
One morning I saw her, the mother, wearing her checked coat, walking towards me to cross the road, possibly 3 yards away. She didn't see me to speak to.
I then went to the bakers, and her daughter was in there. I asked her how she was, and she said she was quite shocked still, as her mother had died the previous week.

Littledidsheknow · 19/07/2018 15:41

Nearly Headless Nick was’t looking very well......

Bert Grin

BertrandRussell · 19/07/2018 15:51

"Anyone got any possible explanations for what DH and I saw? (see upthread)"
Well no, I haven't really because I wasn't there. Hallucination,trick of the light, a hoax, suggestion, shadows, billowing curtains, paredolia, a mirror....those are the usual explanations for things like that. But as I said, I wasn't there.

headinhands · 19/07/2018 16:28

I’ve baked 5 carrot cakes and 5 trays of brownies.

Timeisslippingaway · 19/07/2018 16:42

Littledidsheknow,
Perhaps they do, Perhaps they manifest themselves in all sorts of ways, at all difderent stages of theor lives. No one knows we can't keep tabs on them all the time.

Littledidsheknow · 19/07/2018 17:30

Perhaps they manifest themselves in all sorts of ways, at all difderent stages of their lives

Aye, but if each ghost has lots of different manifestations, the whole place would be hoaching with them: all the billions of people who've ever died, all in lots of guises. You'd not be able to swing a cat.

Still not understanding the clothes, either.

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