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AIBU?

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hubby says he has seen a ghost five times so far.

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lowresidue · 16/07/2018 22:21

Hubby has taken our dog to a local wood, and lets the dog go for a run.
He goes at different times and different days.
He came home and told me that he has seen the same woman ghost five separate times so far. Tonight with bonnet wearing woman made him jump when she popped up in front of him. When he said 'you made me jump', she smiled nodded and walked away from him.

He was quite serious but I asked why he thought she was a dead/ ghost? He said because she is wearing a long coat and a bonnet type hat.
AIBU to suggest that this woman isn't dead, isn't a ghost and is an odd lady with a strange fashion sense?
He is quite firm she is a ghost, and walks along the path but not on it though the trees.

personally I am glad we are going on holiday soon my hubby really needs it asap.
Then again AIBU?

OP posts:
Kbear · 17/07/2018 19:07

I haven't seen a ghost (lately) but I had a message through a medium last week - and she named a family member who had recently passed, first name and last name...... it was a room of strangers - I just walked in and sat down (spiritualist church) and immediately the medium said she had a message from someone and came and stood by me.. and then said the lady's full name! I was sceptical before then......

headinhands · 17/07/2018 19:31

It would make anyone a pretty poor conversationalist if they insisted on proof and evidence for every experience another person recounted.

It depends. If you tell me you had a lovely time on holiday in Spain and found a gorgeous little restaurant that served amazing paella I wouldn't want proof. You may even tell me you bumped in Colin Firth. Even then I'd be inclined to believe you because I know he exists and know other people who have met him (swoon)

However, if you then added that you flew their using some wings you'd made out of some old feathers, and that this restaurant also served unicorn steaks, then I'd probably want some proof before believing.

Chances are I probably wouldn't ask for any proof and would just say 'ah, how lovely'. And probably not invest too much time in our friendship. Grin

As someone once said 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.' Think it was Mr Sagan.

CatsMother66 · 17/07/2018 19:32

I had a strange experience 30 years ago as a student. A lot of my course were Christians and I was trying to fit in by going to Church. An important Christian meeting was coming up in the Guild Hall and I was undecided about going or not, although I had not spoken about it to anyone.
I was living in a terraced house in the middle of a very long row. Earlier in the day I left the house via the back gate, stepping into the very long lane.
As I stepped into the lane there was a strange looking male standing opposite looking at me. He said “are you going tonight?” I said “yes” and walked on. A few moments later I looked back and he was gone!
Had never seen him before, how would he know I was going anywhere that night! Where did he go? Suppose he could’ve gone into a garden but it left me spooked and how did he know I was wondering about going to the meeting. Anyway, I did go, alone and nothing out of the ordinary happened.
Any thoughts about this greatly received!

Plimmy · 17/07/2018 19:33

Challenged to disprove ghosts?

OK: despite the hundreds of billions of ghost accounts, many of them on threads on MN, not one single person has ever shown any material evidence of a single one. Not a scrap. Not one. Every single claim of a ghost sighting in the history of the world is unsupported by any reliable evidence.

There. Disproved.

But you still believe? Fine, but it’s a belief. Just like some odd people believe the Queen is a lizard. Well done, you’re in with the lizard folk.

headinhands · 17/07/2018 19:34

What a person believes it up to them, they don't need to justify or explain it to anyone, excepting of course beliefs which cross the line into human rights and other abuses.

No of course. People who believe in ghosts can fill their boots (although discussing it openly will naturally invite skepticism).

I reserve my dislike for the scum that prey on the grief of the bereaved by claiming to be in touch with their loved ones. And can't recommend Derren Brown enough and the work he has done to scourge this evil.

BertrandRussell · 17/07/2018 19:49

"What never? Or maybe not every single ghost sighting has been scientifically examined."

No, they haven't. But lots have. And not a single one has left the people examining it baffled. You would have thought there's be one......

BlameItOnTheNeon · 17/07/2018 19:54

Chances are I probably wouldn't ask for any proof and would just say 'ah, how lovely'. And probably not invest too much time in our friendship.

Grin Grin

I feel personally that it doesn't matter whether there is proof of something like woo stuff, if a person believes it then its enough to shape them, as we are all shaped by our experiences. I would respect their beliefs as I would any other (abuse exempted) beliefs, so to me proof for beliefs seems irrelevant, iyswim :)

There's enough weird shit in this world for me to not dismiss all that much these days Grin

BlameItOnTheNeon · 17/07/2018 19:55

And yes 100% re scum preying on the vulnerable Angry

MsHomeSlice · 17/07/2018 19:57

to the pp who asked about ghost buildings, have a good rake about the www for Bold Steet and time slips!

I saw that on here and went off down many internet rabbit holes :o

ToeToToe · 17/07/2018 20:01

Thanks for the links Pan Smile

heartsease68 · 17/07/2018 20:03

A lot of people claiming to have seen a ghost are probably uninformed about sleep disturbances IMO.

I had several experiences of what I would have sworn to be a demonic presence while taking one particular prescribed medication. It would happen when I was 'awake' but paralysed and truly felt like a supernatural phenomenon -- incredible evil presence like a dark smoke etc. I have also experienced the presence of people I loved who simply weren't there at the time (and they weren't dead). Full scale hallucination under the influence of prescribed medication. I later found out that these things do happen to some people naturally, without drug involvement or a psychiatric disorder.

My experiences ended when I stopped having to take these medications so it was easy for me to see they were a product of my own mind. Even so, I find it hard it believe - it was that convincing. If I didn't have the rational explanations, I'd still be sure I'd seen dark, supernatural forces etc. That's not to say this is necessarily the case for everyone but I don't think we realise how perfectly our minds can create illusions sometimes - we don't realise that everyone has that ability.

heartsease68 · 17/07/2018 20:09

I would add that the only genuinely inexplicable supernatural experience I've had was a very positive thing that was in a christian context - it involved someone thousands of miles away suddenly becoming aware of something completely random they couldn't possibly have known (a sudden, big event) and praying for me regarding it, then sending a postmarked letter the following day (requesting details!) which only reached me weeks later (in the days before internet).

PanPanPanPing · 17/07/2018 20:09

MsHomeSlice, there's a thread here on MN about time-slips - I think some of the posts might have been about Bold Street (but I can't remember without re-reading the thread)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_unexplained/2982837-Time-slips?pg=1

Howmanysleepstilchristmas · 17/07/2018 20:10

I’ve seen a few ghosts. One wore a flat cap. One wore a crinoline. One wore a raincoat and plastic rain headscarf. One wore a dressing gown.

ShovingLeopard · 17/07/2018 20:11

Well done, you’re in with the lizard folk..

This is just rude. There is no need.

heartsease68 · 17/07/2018 20:13

I do find it strange how ready people are to say there are no such things as ghosts, people are silly for believing in them etc but not to say you are silly for believing in God etc.

On mumsnet it is entirely the other way around.

dustarr73 · 17/07/2018 20:15

@heartsease68 i have had sleep paralysis and exploding head syndrome.But the ghosts i seen and felt where neither.I do know the difference.

Like moving in to a house and knowing it was haunted.Or going to my cousins house and asking her who the lady in the chair was.I have had loads happen to me.

I also know our brains are trained to make "faces".Its filling in the gaps.But thats not the case for every ghost.

Plimmy · 17/07/2018 20:18

Well done, you’re in with the lizard folk.

This is just rude. There is no need

Why is that rude?

headinhands · 17/07/2018 20:19

On mumsnet it is entirely the other way around.

It's robustly equal.

BertrandRussell · 17/07/2018 20:23

"There's enough weird shit in this world for me to not dismiss all that much these days"

That is exactly why it's so important we keep our rational heads on and protect ourselves from woolly thinking. We need to be at our sceptical best because of the arseholery in the world today.

LilQueenie · 17/07/2018 20:27

I reserve my dislike for the scum that prey on the grief of the bereaved by claiming to be in touch with their loved ones. And can't recommend Derren Brown enough and the work he has done to scourge this evil.

To the real scam artists but not all mediums are frauds.

BertrandRussell · 17/07/2018 20:30

"To the real scam artists but not all mediums are frauds."

No. Some of them are harmlessly deluded.

ShovingLeopard · 17/07/2018 20:32

Oh come on, Plimmy

ItsAllPeachy · 17/07/2018 20:39

Not my story but my younger sister.

We lived in a new build house right next to a graveyard. There were rumours that some older graves were built over.

My sister and I shared a room and every night (and she confirms this is her earliest memory) she would be woken up by an old lady sat at the end of her bed stroking her foot over the bed covers.

She said even at the age of 5 she knew something was strange because she had a silver glow around her. She still remembers vividly what she wore, a blue floral dress and a light blue cardigan with a brooch and had curly white hair (styled like the Queen).

My sister would look at her and the old lady would say, 'it's ok, I'm here to look after you.'

She always remembers running as fast as she could into my parents room (leaving me behind with the ghost I might add!)

My mum used to dismiss it, but we moved a few years a later and my sister stopped coming into their bed the day we moved.

I never saw anything or felt anything in that house but my sister has seen more things, so maybe she's a sensitive. She's a nurse and generally the most honest, caring person I know, she definitely didn't make it up and a ghost wearing fairly modern clothes too.

LilQueenie · 17/07/2018 20:42

No. Some of them are harmlessly deluded.

nor are they deluded Hmm You can't really comment on what you haven't experienced.