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AIBU to think Marks and Spencer deserve to go under

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Carulli · 16/07/2018 18:06

I'm so disappointed, I grew up shopping at M&S snd as young adult still bought most of my clothes there. However for at least 10 years they don't seem to have anything to offer me (I'm in my 40's) apart from food.

Their Sparks card is a bad joke, I've got over 57,000 points from regular food purchases but to obtain any benefits I'm expected to log in and pick deals I'm interested in. Who's got time to do that before they go and buy a sandwich? I know Boots ask you check offers too but they also generously accumulate money on your card with every purchase which you can use to buy products. Sparks offers nothing at all, they get all the valuable data but customers get nothing of any use.
I foolishly bought school uniform for my 3 kids because it was a 20% off deal. Instead of delivering it in one or two large boxes they posted it to me with most of the items in individual bags which took up loads of space, I received 16 parcels in total! Having tried on the uniform and finding it far too large for my normal size kids I decided to return it and was amazed to find that in order to return it to the local Collect store I was expected to tear off a printed piece of paper and attach it on to each individual parcel! All the other retailers that I shop online with have sticky labels which are so easy to attach.
I rang customer services and asked if they could collect the parcels so that I don't have to use sticky tape to attach 16 labels on and they refused and were particularly unhelpful.
There was still a part of me that felt some loyalty to them and I wanted to call head office to let them know how frustrating it is to shop with them now. Well I found it impossible to contact them, there was a number online which kept me on hold for 8 mins before I gave up.
Any loyalty or wishes for them to get their act together so that I could shop with them again evaporated. I feel so sorry for their shop floor staff who will continue to lose their jobs as stores close through no fault of their own. Incompetent management teams for at least the last decade continue to treat their customer like idiots. The only way to have any contact with M&S is though the call centre and those staff appear to have no way of escalating customer concerns, certainly I was given very short shrift. If the Senior managers really want to turn the business around they need to stop tinkering and actually connect with real customers and lots of them. They need to know why so few people are buying their products now and actually ask them why themselves, maybe call 10 customers each once per week picked at random from their Sparks database.
I'm not sure why I'm offering them suggestions, I just don't care any more which makes me sad.

AIBU to think Marks and Spencer deserve to go under
AIBU to think Marks and Spencer deserve to go under
OP posts:
Hadjab · 16/07/2018 18:10

Yes, you are BU. You forget that people work there, like myself, who have mortgages and kids to feed you may not believe it, but some of us are actually trying to effect change, post like this don’t exactly boost the morale of the workers, especially those on the frontline.

thricethebrindledcat · 16/07/2018 18:10

Shop somewhere else?

Angrybird345 · 16/07/2018 18:11

Yabu for so many reasons!

Love love live m&S!!

ExtraMillions · 16/07/2018 18:13

Sparks card is annoying, agree. Its such a waste of space, even that word sets me on edge!

But M&S please keep it going in some form?! Its a British Institution.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 16/07/2018 18:14

Yabu.

I do care about M and S.

rosesandflowers1 · 16/07/2018 18:14

I do most of my food shopping at M&S and it's great. Definitely not a fan of the clothes though.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 16/07/2018 18:15

Well no business deserves to go undeto.
As it'll be poor Anne who works on shop floor who will suffer. Not the big boss millionaires at the top of the tree.
That said reading your post i can see why they're in trouble..

SpiritedLondon · 16/07/2018 18:16

I do despair of them too.... I try to shop there - particularly for work clothes. I’m in my 40s and looking for fairly classic but stylish office wear but despite all my attempts recently was unable to spend any money in there. Everything appeared floral, embellished or frilled. Fabrics were often synthetic and styles massively overworked. You’d think they could be a good alternative to Banana Republic. I don’t want them to go under though.... I want them to sort their shit out and turn it around.

Bombardier25966 · 16/07/2018 18:18

I rang customer services and asked if they could collect the parcels so that I don't have to use sticky tape to attach 16 labels on and they refused and were particularly unhelpful.

Would have been quicker just to get on and stick the labels on, and even quicker to stick several items in one bag.

Your post is a complete overreaction to a non issue.

Makemineboozefree · 16/07/2018 18:19

Tens of thousands of people losing their jobs and high streets across the UK decimated even more because you don't like their loyalty card and returning an order was a bit of a faff? Yeah, that sounds reasonable... Hmm

NaiceHamble · 16/07/2018 18:20

While I get your point about M&S and its packaging, your AIBU is really, 'AIBU not to have a roll of sellotape in the house?'

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 16/07/2018 18:20

Oh come on now op. just admit it.
The real reason you started this thread to brag that you shop in Markseys, isn't it.
Grin

NameChangeUni · 16/07/2018 18:20

The parcel problem does sound annoying, but couldn’t you have personally placed all your returns in one parcel with all invoices? As long as it all gets back to them surely

JacquesHammer · 16/07/2018 18:21

YABU.

It isn’t compulsory to shop there. You can vote with your feet, which you would of course NBU to do.

But to wish a company to go under because of some minor inconvenience? Yes, unreasonable and rather unkind.

guiltynetter · 16/07/2018 18:21

YABU and very mean spirited.

NaiceHamble · 16/07/2018 18:24

If we're going to get into problem packaging, far more worrying is John Lewis Online and the chaos it's causing at Waitrose for Click & Collect. The last couple of orders I've placed have arrived in several separate parcels, late, and then the returns have taken ages to process - they've actually lost two of my returns between Waitrose and John Lewis warehouse, and then tried to charge me for the item.

PortiaCastis · 16/07/2018 18:25

I do not want any company to go under and thousands to lose their jobs, yes they do have some awful things but I managed to get 3 pairs of summer trousers there at the weekend and I'm quite happy with them also get my knickers and socks from there so no I do not want them to go under

Gazelda · 16/07/2018 18:29

I think you're over-reacting a tad.
The sparks is a bit of a waste of space, I agree. But it only takes a second or two to click on the email link to see what new offers they've attached to my account. They're often very relevant.
Surely you could have packaged the parcels into fewer than 16, then attached the labels? Probably wouldn't take more than 8 minutes.
I love their knickers. And some of their basics. And sometimes their linen wear is good value, although tends not to last more than a summer or two.
But most of all, I'd hate for the brand to close and for all of the workers to lose their jobs.
YABU.

NoFuckingRoomOnMyBroom · 16/07/2018 18:31

No they don't deserve to go under but if they don't get their act together I think that may be what happens.
Clothes are a bit shite & amazingly over priced, the Sparks card is the worst loyalty scheme ever & don't get me started on how wank the Dine in offer now is Hmm

Bibesia · 16/07/2018 18:32

Was the uniform really all too large for your children? It would be surprising if, for instance, uniform that is too large for child A is too large for child B who is a year or two older.

Scribblegirl · 16/07/2018 18:35

While your post does sound like a PITA, I am yet to find anywhere that will do decent underwear at an affordable price point so YABU.

HazelBite · 16/07/2018 18:35

I have to admit out of all our shops on the High Street it is the one shop where I have experienced appalling customer service.

Racecardriver · 16/07/2018 18:35

Tbh I think some of their staff are so terrible at their jobs they deserve to loose them. Others on the other hand are so brilliant that I would try to hire them myself if I had a supermarket. I think it just depends on which store you go to. Some of them are terribly mismanaged.

HardRainGonnaFall · 16/07/2018 18:35

But what will happen to my favourite turkey and stuffing M&S sandwiches at xmas?

IgamOgamJones · 16/07/2018 18:36

Not sure that they deserve to go under due to yet more people losing their jobs but a MASSIVE change would be good. They are FAR too expensive for clothes and the food, hahahaha, what a load of overpriced and over-packaged rubbish. Oh and don't get me started on the requirements for my daughter to get an interview there!