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Another Tory sex scandal

92 replies

IJustHadToNameChange · 15/07/2018 00:16

After all the previous publicity.

After all the cautionary tales.

Another man caught sexting.

BBC link This time, it's the Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Small Business, MP for Burton and the former Chief of Staff to Theresa May, Andrew Griffiths.

Mirror link He sent over 2000 texts to two of his constituents!! 😱

What goes through their minds?

High position, married with children, great responsibilities and he screws up like this?

AIBU, or should MPs have all correspondence, texts, emails and phone calls monitored?

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LipstickHandbagCoffee · 15/07/2018 10:56

In fairness it’s him who should feel humiliated.not his wife
Wife has done nothing wrong,clearly she was oblivious to his odious texts
But in reality,it’ll be the wife really suffering, the press interest,processing what hes done

eddiemairswife · 15/07/2018 11:09

I would be more excited if he had been someone I had actually heard of.

Mrsharrison · 15/07/2018 11:23

It v much is our,my business. He’s employed in public office to promote female inclusion in business
He’s salaried government employee,employed in public sector. And in work time when meant to be working he’s sexting women
Not fully engaged in his job because he’s sending salacious texts
That is v much my business

Those employed in public office, public sector are held to high standard of behaviour. He’s failed abysmally and neglected his role

His sexual misogeny doesn't preclude him from female inclusion in business. Being a sexual deviant doesn't mean you're bad at your job.
And why should an MP be held to a higher standard? Surely it's the case that because of this higher standard, it makes them more vulnerable to media stories?

It's not the 1960s anymore when a gay MP could be blackmailed.
Yes he should be reprimanded for sexting in work hours.
But if he does that job well, who really gains anything by his sacking.
We should have a privacy law to stop this kind of thing being published in the first place.
They were private texts.

StealthPolarBear · 15/07/2018 11:38

Scrub I didn't realise that was the situation. The two links in the op suggested he was harassing them (or that was my interpretation). Agree if your description is the way it was no apologies needed to the women themselves

LadyWithLapdog · 15/07/2018 11:38

They were private texts in taxpayer-paid-for time.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 15/07/2018 11:39

This is wholly incomparable to a gay person being blackmailed
Blackmail relies upon shame and secrecy to extort money or favour
This,the sexting,is open and known about.and yes he should be held accountable. Held accountable as to why in work time,he was habitually texting
Held accountable about the incongruence of his public life eg job and private life predilection

annandale · 15/07/2018 11:50

If he's not doing his job, that's a management issue.

If he is discriminating against women in a professional capacity, it's also management issue.

His marital relationship is between the two of them.

Imo this isn't investigative journalism, it's salacious gossip.

Mrsharrison · 15/07/2018 11:51

But why

placemats · 15/07/2018 11:51

'I have to be slightly careful of my job'

WTAF?

His texts are not funny and are grossly inappropriate. Would you want this man around your children? It's 'Daddy' porn. And yes, it's a thing.

Mrsharrison · 15/07/2018 11:53

I don't see why he should be held accountable for his sex life?
My sex life has no bearing on my job.
Apart from sexting while at work, why is his sex life our business.
As M

Mrsharrison · 15/07/2018 11:55

As MP he represents people who are doing the s

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 15/07/2018 11:57

It’s the at work aspect that’s the kicker,that’s why he should get fired
Publicly outwardly promoting fairness,inclusion to women then going to office to bang out inappropriate text to women in work time

placemats · 15/07/2018 11:58

Can you imagine the outrage if a woman in her forties who has a 3 month old baby and in a ministerial position in the Government was texting 'mummy' porn to two young bar men she had been in contact with?

And yes, women do have babies in their 40s.

Nikephorus · 15/07/2018 11:58

They exist in all political parties so not sure why the fact he's Tory was a highlight of the title.
This ^^

Mrsharrison · 15/07/2018 12:01

same as him and worse.
Blackmail will always be a threat because an MP has so much to lose if the story is published.
What we need is a change on how we view MPs' privacy.

mindlessobsessions · 15/07/2018 12:08

Now if there was a woman in her late 40s with a family texting young boys about beating them up and dressing people up as pigs, that would be something novel!

He’s revealed himself as a horrible human being, i hope she does dump him.

ScreamingValenta · 15/07/2018 12:09

As an MP, this man has a duty to behave in a way that doesn't embarrass his constituents. Had he not chosen to take a public role in which he represents others, the matter would be between him and his wife.

I don't think the women he was sexting have grounds for complaint. They accepted his money in return for sending him sexy videos. If they wanted the sexting to stop, they could have blocked him at any time. There's nothing I've read that says they even asked him to stop contacting them.

Mrsharrison · 15/07/2018 12:13

that doesn't embarrass his constituents.

Some will be embarrassed, some won't give a shit because they've done worse.

It's sheer hypocrisy.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 15/07/2018 12:14

I have a job that has a professional code of ethics enforceable in my private life
If I were to be cautioned,arrested,or behaving inappropriately, or posting inappropriate tweets my professional body would be informed
This isn’t cause for all individuals,and not case when someone is an unregulated job
I’m held to a different level of accountability because of my job

StealthPolarBear · 15/07/2018 12:15

What is it about tory mps and pigs?

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 15/07/2018 12:16

I know about Cameron alleged pork based activity what’s the deal with this mp?

mindlessobsessions · 15/07/2018 12:17

I don’t UK dress as why you’d want anyone to dress up as any animal to get sexual kicks - smacks of a very disturbing view of women?

Mrsharrison · 15/07/2018 12:36

Lipstick, would your professional body be informed if you were sexting on work time?

My friend has her own law firm and I'm pretty sure she would have strong words off the record with her employee but she wouldnt sabotage his career by reporting him.

Metoodear · 15/07/2018 12:36

No MP is labour he has been put on gardening leave for the last 5 months for the very same thing

It’s not just the Tory’s though I sure the left would love to believe that

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 15/07/2018 12:41

Expect so, yes. And they’d probably take a dim view of it