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Police officers in shocking conditions protecting Trump

61 replies

Ontheboardwalk · 12/07/2018 22:54

According to the news, serving police officers are expected to sleep on camp beds in a hall when off duty on assignment protecting Trump. Surely this isn’t how we treat police.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44806144

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ihatethecold · 12/07/2018 22:59

It’s been like that for years since they sold off the section houses.
My dh was a senior police officer at royalty protection and had to regularly sleep in a changing room next to a shower on a camp bed!

maskingtape · 12/07/2018 23:04

What's so shocking about sleeping on a campbed in a warm place? I've had to camp for a job, I've slept in hostels for work and on a school residential I camped on the floor in a corridor when a child kept getting homesick. It's hardly 'shocking conditions'.

That's not to say I agree with Trump needing so much protection or anything to do with him though!

NotTakenUsername · 12/07/2018 23:10

I think it is more the lack of facilities thatbis the issue. 1 toilet per 25 women or 1 toilet per 60 men is certainly unreasonable.
The camp beds, while they make a good photo, are not exclusively the issue.

Ontheboardwalk · 12/07/2018 23:12

In my job they have minimum conditions around where I can stay when travelling for business. I would expect that police officers doing a critical job protecting Trump would be at least given somewhere proper to sleep at night.

Imagine the snoring in the hall, it would be bad if I was there, there’s got to be some snorers in that room

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ihatethecold · 12/07/2018 23:14

My dh always had earplugs with him!

AgnesNitt1976 · 12/07/2018 23:17

A colleagues husband is a serving policeman who has been seconded to London. The conditions are far far worse than what have been reported. Not enough food or drink for even half of the officers, running out of loo roll.

There are not enough beds meaning that officers have been forced to sleep on the floor and in stairwells.
Shift changes mean that the officers are constantly woken and that the wait tine for a shower was at least two hours. Not much fun after a 12 hour shift.

This is not the way to treat anyone and certainly not serving police officers who have been made to go to London losing out on days off etc.

flumpybear · 12/07/2018 23:17

Police are treated like shit! Worthless shit ... I'd leave if they treated me so poorly! Bastards -

Amanduh · 12/07/2018 23:18

Well I travel as a teacher with a floor and a sleeping bag, with a 24/7 crisis line (eg 10 year olds walking in to my tent/cabin at 2am) and no electricity.
So yes yabu and ridiculous

lostincake · 12/07/2018 23:18

During Obama's visits, presumably police officers all stayed at The Savoy?

TooManyPaws · 12/07/2018 23:23

They didn't need extra police for Obama because there weren't huge protests about him being here. Simples.

Ontheboardwalk · 12/07/2018 23:25

My post isn’t about Trump or what people would do to help anyone in a crisis situation. It’s about how we treat police, for a known event, and the minimum standards we would expect a person to live and sleep in for a work assignment

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LEMtheoriginal · 12/07/2018 23:26

I love my campbed - its more comfortable than my actual bed.

HopefullyAnonymous · 12/07/2018 23:27

During Obama's visits, presumably police officers all stayed at The Savoy

Well, we were provided with better, more suitable accommodations during the London riots, which were completely unplanned. Trumps visit has been scheduled for a considerable period of time. We’re working 12 hour shifts on our cancelled rest days so yes, it would be nice to be appreciated at least to the extent where we have reasonable access to food, shower facilities and sufficient toilet roll. I don’t think any of us have requested the Savoy Hmm

RedWineAllMine · 12/07/2018 23:31

But it's how we treat the Military. The Military are expected to put up with conditions like this very often. So why is it ok for the Military to be treated like this but not the Police? They can suck it up and shut up.

RedWineAllMine · 12/07/2018 23:36

You'd think the Military doing a critical job of protecting the Country should be put up in better accommodation aswell. It really pisses me off how this comes in the news and is seen as a disgraceful way to treat Police. The world turns a blind eye when it's Army, Navy, RAF in this situation, or even better no one seems to care as Soldiers are expected to put up with it. I have plenty of experience and trust me these conditions are nothing compared to what Military are expected to put up with.

AgnesNitt1976 · 12/07/2018 23:40

The military should have better conditions absolutely as should these officers

Ontheboardwalk · 12/07/2018 23:41

Red no one has said it’s ok for the military to be treated like this.

In my easy office job there are minimum nice standards standards around where I can stay

Crisis situations aside I think that this standard should be gven to every employee

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RedWineAllMine · 12/07/2018 23:44

I've slept on many a camp cot bed in a hall like that, on tour and in the UK, as have almost all of my friends and you didn't hear us complaining.
The world really needs to see what the Military have to put up with.
I saw this article earlier this morning and I just laughed.
They can stop their moaning because I'm not interested.

HopefullyAnonymous · 12/07/2018 23:46

Why should it be a race to the bottom though? Everyone should be entitled to reasonable standards of accommodation whilst at work.

RedWineAllMine · 12/07/2018 23:49

Yeah I know no one one this thread has said it's ok for Military to be treated like this, many people don't even know what goes on to be honest unless you've experienced it, But I just couldn't believe this article when I saw it. It's a big deal for Police but this has never been a big deal for Military standards.
I've never seen an article like this titled shocking accommodation for Military. So I'm just baffled why it's such a big deal for Police Force to the media in the paper.

Sidelook · 12/07/2018 23:50

Good grief, these are grown adults having to sleep a couple of nights on a camp bed. We have children in this country who don’t have a bed to sleep in or they sleep in poor conditions. The police should stop whinging and get a grip.

ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs · 12/07/2018 23:51

DH is military, and some of the conditions he has endured, as a relatively senior officer, have been appalling. But if it s for a cause, fair enough.

I'm raging we have spent however many million protecting a racist misogynist arsehole, even worse that those protecting him are being treated shittily ( to save some money) Its pants, utter pants.

HelenaDove · 12/07/2018 23:52

YY Red Wine Two words.......................Carillion Amey.

1stTimeMama · 12/07/2018 23:53

I'm not sure the numbers are 100%. The place they are being put up in is a full sports and leisure centre, I think there are more toilets than have been suggested, and then all the changing facilities, so they have showers etc. I wonder if they able to use the gym and the pool, if so, it's not exactly the slums, is it?

HelenaDove · 12/07/2018 23:54

Red Wine Ive talked about the military and Carillion Amey on here in the past......................i noticed a similarity with the shocking way social housing tenants are treated.

The same contractors are used in some cases.

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