Police officers in shocking conditions protecting Trump

[Ontheboardwalk]

According to the news, serving police officers are expected to sleep on camp beds in a hall when off duty on assignment protecting Trump. Surely this isn’t how we treat police.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44806144

Red I think it’s because for military and emergency services if there’s an emergency we think things have to happen as they occur because you can’t plan for it. This should have been planned for. If there are ongoing issues let’s shout about it.

For known events and military manoeuvres there needs to be a certain amount of respect given. These are people who have made life choices to protect me and mine. Not to spend a couple of nights on a camp bed

It's just a temporary thing for the Military and obviously isn't permanent accommodation. But sometimes you just have to accept conditions like this, the Military don't have a choice and are forced to really.

Agreed Boardwalk they shouldn't have to sleep in conditions like this, no one should.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/13/housing-uk-military-families-appalling-mps-report-mod-carillionamey-no-heating-rat-infestations

it's not acceptable at all. No employer should be allowed to treat staff like that unless there are circumstances that mean it was not possible to provide better accommodation and the job was necessary for health or security.

In particular, the lack of food and sanitary facilities is simply shocking.

They said on the news that he had brought 1000 of his own people.

Where are they staying?

And why do we need to supplement that?

The approved hotel of my employer isn’t allowed to put me on the ground floor or around a corner in the hotel - really!

Service and military personnel can sleep where ever. It doesnt feel right.

It not pleasant, but similar conditions are considered acceptable for the military so the police shouldn’t be treated any differently.

Surly there is space available in nearby military barracks? That would have been a better option.

I have had to work in way more worse conditions

I was disgusted to hear this too

Interesting to hear there was better accommodation for cover during the riots

Is that about cuts or was it because of the short notice, where were police put up then? Was it a case of "quick, we need help, book hostels"? Whereas this time they had more warning to set up these crappy camps?

I sense the police will have another recruitment crisis soon.

Yeah all people saying if the millarty have to put up with so should the police.

If these have to do it why cnanot doctors, office workers etc not have to do it?

Public servents get hotel / bnb / travel lodge like places they are not expected to stay in tents or communial things like this.

The millitry is different you signed up for active duty potentally were these things are expected not as a police officer where they could of easily foudn suitable accomidation.

No one here that travels on buness would put up with these condistions why should the police?

And what amazes me even more is that everyone in the world seems to have forgotten about the time when the Military was dragged in to do security for the Olympics because G4S couldn't abide to the Governments funding as the Government wanted to do it cheap as so they drafted in the Military instead. We slept in these cot beds in a multi storey car park for weeks!
So the Police can dust off their fairy dust now and just need to get on with it unfortunately!

It’s not just about the accommodation for me. We’re supposed to be entitled to a small overnight allowance if called away from our normal place of work on mutual aid like this. Individual forces fought tooth and nail not to pay it on the basis that the wording of the policy says we need to be “held in reserve” and they were giving us permission to travel home between shifts. London to Manchester and back is hardly feasible with an 11 hour gap between shifts! There is a lot of ill feeling surrounding the whole trip.

Worrid I get what you're saying. Police didn't sign up to dig holes etc but notice was made for Olympics yet we were still made to sleep in these exact conditions but in a multi storey car park.
Just because people are Military it doesn't mean they should be made to sleep like dogs when sometimes it can be totally avoidable.
I understand emergency conditions like on tour etc, always moving around, it can't be helped.
But it would be nice to be treated to better accommodation where necessary sometimes.

Red, we are getting on with it doesn’t mean we have to be happy about the situation or thankful because it could be even worse!

I think maybe the point some are trying to make is that if the thread had been about the military sleeping like this then this thread wouldnt be moving as quickly.

Yanbu it totally sucks. There is no way I could sleep in a place like that with so many people. The thought of poor toilet access at certain times of the month...shudder. this government have treated police like shit and expect them to rally round. I know officers who are 4K worse off now than a few years back due to cuts to pay and conditions. Theresa May is not popular after her 'pull your bootstraps up' lecture either. She is the one whom caused all these cuts in the first place. Hats off to police i couldn't do it and the lack of sympathy for any hardships they face is shocking. Totally agree with poster who questions why everything should be a race to the bottom.

Pink i agree its disgusting but it does put me a bit in mind of Niemoller?

Yes I can see where you are coming from with that.

My husband has been sent down to the south east this week and some constabularies have clearly taken efforts to look after their officers better than others. Sone are in the De Vere Spa whilst others are in the sports halls on camp beds.

He was instructed to bring his own towels and bedding. They get paid an extra allowance, albeit not a lot, for the inconvenience of shared toilets and queuing for shared shower facilities.

If it's good enough for our police, why aren't these conditions deemed good enough for prisoners. It's a kick in the teeth.

@Kursk, and where on the barracks would they put them?

1stTimeMama
Tents on the parade ground. Works for the cadets.

I’ve served in the army, assisted with floods etc.....and to be honest, the accommodation the police have been given looks pretty comfortable to me
It’s an actual bed - raised off the ground, in a proper building with a roof etc.
It’s not exactly squalor.
It’s a place to get your head down between shifts.

My sister is a police office and when attending mandatory training or jobs like this the facilities / allowances they are provided are very poor. They aren't provided all meals (her last training course was a weeks residential with only B'fast and lunch provided and no kitchen facilities) or given catering facilities so they have to eat out at their own expense. Her colleagues got bed bugs from a previous course. They are left standing ourside cordons for 8 hrs straight without anyone coming to relieve them for loo breaks. They get abused by the general public if they dare to stop off to grab lunch in their break time. My sister got a mouthful the other day for "using a cash machine while on duty" of a member of the public. She wasn't she was actually checking it for tampering but why on earth shouldn't she take money from a cash point during her break time? May breaks of which she doesn't get. Half the time she'll do her 11hr shift without time to eat anything at all.

I travel for work and there is absolutely no way I'd travel under the conditions she is expected to.

And no I don't think the forces should have to suffer squalor either. They are highly trained individuals doing a job most of us wouldn't be willing to put up with. They at least deserve a comfortable place to sleep, decent food and toilets / showers. It doesn't have to be the Savoy but it should meet a set minimum standard.