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AIBU?

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Was your daughter on a school trip at Alton towers today?

675 replies

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 18:42

Was she late for her bus? did the teacher lose his rag at her in the middle of the entrance area? If so is she ok?

Can’t believe what I saw today, two girls were 20 mins late back, yes they should be in trouble but they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them, I was 75 metres away and could hear everything I felt so sorry for the girls. I was in a queue and I wasn’t talking about it to the other people in the queue, I was about to go over, but another teacher did.

Would love the name of the school to make a complaint to. Heat is not an excuse, I have lived in hot countries and never saw a teacher lose it like he did.

I know it’s not Aibu but posted here for traffic....

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qwertyuiopy · 29/06/2018 21:04

Meanwhile, you rushed to post an inflammatory account on the internet. You should be ashamed

Meanwhile a teacher let her/his profession down by behaving in an unprofessional way in public. If they can’t handle the job...

Thecrabbypatty · 29/06/2018 21:05

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Teachers need to make it mainstream for coaches to leave on time REGARDLESS. Notify parents if children not on coach and cruise off into the traffic free sunset. Problem solved, let the parents pick up and bollock / not bollock their kids as they see fit. Might induce some parents to instill basic respect for others and personal accountability if they themselves are severely put out as a consequence.

paris100 · 29/06/2018 21:06

Yes, someone please let us know the name of the school!
I for one would like to thank the teacher!

Let’s appreciate our teachers for the great job that they do amidst all the crap that they have to put up with!

LuluJakey1 · 29/06/2018 21:06

they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them
I think your attitude to teachers is quite clear.

ScrommidgeClaryAndSpunt · 29/06/2018 21:08

Hi OP. Hope the view's good from that moral high ground. Have a little something to snack on while you gaze Biscuit

This sort of situation must be every teacher's worst nightmare in these days of hyper-litigious, oooooh let's get 'im into trouble, HE MUST OF BEEN A PEADO nonsense. There are times when high-decibel bollockings are entirely appropriate as a tool for imparting learning - this is one of them.

Oh, and I am old enough to remember the days where being 20 minutes adrift like this would have got you a) caned and b) banned from future outings.

mathanxiety · 29/06/2018 21:08

I think it's significant that when the second teacher went over the shouting stopped.

Why did that happen, I wonder?

I wasn't there, and the OP didn't hear what the second teacher said, but it seems to me that the second teacher saw something amiss and calmed the situation.

Maybe those leaping to the defence of the first teacher would consider the second teacher wrong to do this, because clearly the girls who were late needed to be bawled out?

mathanxiety · 29/06/2018 21:09

There are times when high-decibel bollockings are entirely appropriate as a tool for imparting learning - this is one of them.

Yet only one of the two teachers thought this.

nokidshere · 29/06/2018 21:09

Meanwhile a teacher let her/his profession down by behaving in an unprofessional way in public. If they can’t handle the job

Oh give over

It's no different at all to those parents who say they don't smack their children "unless they are going to do something dangerous"

I expect everyone was hot, tired and grumpy and the teacher was probably pretty stressed already even before the teens, who probably walked up smirking and laughing, turned up 20 mins late. Going by the teachers I know, I can't imagine it was his normal behaviour

Sugarhunnyicedtea · 29/06/2018 21:09

Yeah right. I actually don't believe you. you drip feed this information in to make people more sympathetic. I also don't think teachers would allow year 7s to disappear unsupervised all day. When we were at school, you could only go to alton towers on a trip if you were at least year 9/10.

Year 7's go to Alton Towers at my son's school. Year 8's were left at Disneyland Paris. They're more than capable of getting help if they need it.

Silentnighttwo · 29/06/2018 21:10

I would have no problem with my child being yelled at if they were selfish enough to keep a whole class waiting for 20 minutes. In fact I would apologise profusely to the teacher.

BarefootHippieChick · 29/06/2018 21:11

Peakpants kids in year 7 here are left to their own devices at places like Alton Towers, and simply given a set time to be back at the bus.

mantlepiece · 29/06/2018 21:11

Yes crabby that’s the perfect solution.
OP those kids deserved a bollocking.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 29/06/2018 21:11

Yes a colleague de-escalating situation meant it was notable enough to get involved
I don’t know if it means what was shouted was inappropriate
But yes 2nd teacher can give an account too

GettingAwayWithIt · 29/06/2018 21:11

Good on the teacher. There’s nothing more irritating on bus trips when you have to be back for X time, you dutifully get back by that time only to be held up for 20 minutes while some selfish asshole dawdles back at their leisure. Why do some people think their time is so much more important than everyone else’s?

Hopefully the teenagers will remember this when they go on trips in the future and not leave the rest of the bus waiting.

Alibaba87 · 29/06/2018 21:12

Very difficult to judge the situation if you weren’t there. What was the teacher saying? Not quite 3, but we drive two and half hours to Alton towers every year for year 9 and 10s. 6.15am leave time back by 7.30pm.

YouCanCallMeNancy · 29/06/2018 21:12

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qwertyuiopy · 29/06/2018 21:13

Thecrabbypatty K agree. If it were any other sort of public transport, the bus/train would leave on time and the latecomers would have to make alternative arrangements. Of course chances are the school would be bollocked by the parents and probs my the press if they put i their sad faces.

Big if it were the norm, there would be no comeback.

No excuse for a teacher to lose their temper like thafcghpugh. Bad example all round.

BoneyBackJefferson · 29/06/2018 21:14

mathanxiety
I wasn't there

Yet you are happy to make stuff up about the teacher.

RolyRocks · 29/06/2018 21:14

Not necessarily mathanxiety. A lot of teachers wouldn’t step on another teacher’s toes and contradict them in front of the pupils-much like it doesn’t often work when a parent contradicts the discipline of another parent as the child just learns they can play one off against the other.
It is just as likely the other teacher came over to say quick, bus driver is getting antsy and we need to get on the coach.

AJPTaylor · 29/06/2018 21:14

well. hopefully they will learn their lesson now.
went on a coach trip to france shopping. 2 colleagues were an hour late back. ferry missed.
the following year they did the same! except they were given 10 minutes and left in France.

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 21:16

lipstick and if a concern was reported to school, 2nd teacher would give her account, so would girls involved etc and school would be able to come to whatever decision they made.

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applesandpears56 · 29/06/2018 21:16

I sympathise with the teacher - they are human too.
They thought they had lost someone else’s kids - anything could have happened to them and the teacher could have lost his job.
Don’t make a complaint at all.
Speak to the girls mums instead about making sure their children follow the rules in future.

pieceofpurplesky · 29/06/2018 21:16

I have been in the position of the second teacher. Two boys 25 minutes late and teacher one really shouted at them. I went over and took them Off explaining that Mr X was so angry as they had let the school down and all their school mates. How they had worried people. Both me and Mr X knew the kids and their backgrounds because - well we are teachers and that is an essential part of the job.

Thing is Mr X and I were team bollocking as good cop bad cop. Kids sat next to staff on the way home and parents were contacted.

Parents made boys write letter of apologies. Both kids were fine - one is a brilliant mechanic and the other went to university. Lives not ruined and a lesson learnt.

qwertyuiopy · 29/06/2018 21:17

Argh typos , sorry

RedForFilth · 29/06/2018 21:18

Zzz1234 it was actually a rhetorical question 😂 Point being there are loads of high stress jobs presumably carried out by humans. It doesn't mean they should be allowed to shout at others though. I know people do, but it doesn't make it ok. If you can't get your point across without shouting then you've got problems.

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