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AIBU?

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Was your daughter on a school trip at Alton towers today?

675 replies

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 18:42

Was she late for her bus? did the teacher lose his rag at her in the middle of the entrance area? If so is she ok?

Can’t believe what I saw today, two girls were 20 mins late back, yes they should be in trouble but they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them, I was 75 metres away and could hear everything I felt so sorry for the girls. I was in a queue and I wasn’t talking about it to the other people in the queue, I was about to go over, but another teacher did.

Would love the name of the school to make a complaint to. Heat is not an excuse, I have lived in hot countries and never saw a teacher lose it like he did.

I know it’s not Aibu but posted here for traffic....

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 30/06/2018 02:06

applesandpears56 Fri 29-Jun-18 23:56:26
I think all you people who have shouting/anger issues need to ask yourself why? It’s part of a range of normal human emotion - do you never cry either?

I do sometimes. I do not do it at work though.

I actually do not know anyone who cries at work. The range of human emotions I exhibit at work tends to be smaller than the range I have at home.

Part of the reason for that is my natural reserve and part of it is the knowledge that I would probably be fired for unprofessional displays of emotion, or referred for therapy. Certainly earmarked as someone not to be promoted.

Similarly, I whip off my bra pretty much the instant I get in the door every evening. I sometimes spend the evening in my pajamas.

LuMarie · 30/06/2018 02:08

@mathanxiety

Please go to Scotland and tell everyone you meet that they are "Celtic"..... and good luck!

mathanxiety · 30/06/2018 02:30

That's Celtic with a hard C. Not the other Celtic.

LuMarie · 30/06/2018 02:33

That's exactly what I meant, with a hard C.

Go ask!

mathanxiety · 30/06/2018 02:47
Hmm

It's an unscientific term used very widely. It doesn't matter what random apparently undereducated people may think of it. It exists. It has some resonance in history, and as a term to categorise a group of languages it is perfectly valid.

borntobequiet · 30/06/2018 05:24

The British Isles comprise Gt Britain, Ireland, the Isle of Man and all the smaller islands in the group.
As an aside, it’s not clear that some posters properly differentiate between “shouting” and “screaming”.

borntobequiet · 30/06/2018 05:24

Correction - are comprised of.

worlybear · 30/06/2018 05:30

Reading this thread I am so glad that I have left main stream teaching.
I worked for 30 years in the profession and now despair at how judgemental people are and how entitled some kids (and parents) feel.
FWIW I have many friends working as teachers in other countries, Germany,France,Spain,Italy to name a few.
No way would they put up with this crap from students.
Only in this country do some members of the public expect teachers to accept this crap as a matter of course!

borntobequiet · 30/06/2018 05:59

Also 75 m away and could hear everything? Really?

StepBackNow · 30/06/2018 06:33

I got yelled at a few times by teachers and I deserved it every single time.

I somehow made it to adulthood without PTSD.

Can't believe some of the posters on this thread live in the real world. I feel sorry for their kids, frankly. Dealing with this sort of thing is a rite of passage to adulthood. And accepting you've been a selfish idiot is part of that.

ncsmummy · 30/06/2018 06:40

My Daughter went on a school trip to Alton Towers yesterday but it was a small trip - only a couple of kids from each year as a reward trip so they were kept in 1 or 2 groups. Had she been allowed on her own and then got shouted at for being 20 minutes late then I would have told her it served her right!!
No doubt the teacher was worried about the, not only that but it then makes everyone else sit on a boiling hot bus waiting and causes them to be late back. It could potentially have been a very long day - we are at least 3 1/2 hours from Alton Towers to give an idea!

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 30/06/2018 06:48

@HRMTheQueen - can you tell me what you think 'chavvy' means? I don't think you know, hence why you're using the wrong terminology for folk having a bit of a laugh on a crazy thread. Do enlighten us tho, eh? Maybe you're being ironic, given your user name.

The Celtic fringe actually comprises of Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Brittany who all share a common, but individually different, Celtic heritage. Their native languages share many similarities too.

No' bad fur a wee Scottish chav eh, @HRMTheQueen?

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 30/06/2018 06:49

Bloody bold fail for some reason 😱

shakeyourcaboose · 30/06/2018 07:32

queen get in ya dancer!

Oldagepensioner · 30/06/2018 07:34

At one time school children would have received physical chastisement for all manner of things. I’m old enough to remember the cane and the slipper. 🙀

Thank goodness this no longer happens! This of course leaves the schools with finding other ways to discipline the children. I think being shouted at for being 20minutes late is justified and acceptable. If the children had been physically chastised thenI think the OP would have a point.

I cannot imagine how worried the teacher would have been! I despair that the teacher in question might get into trouble because of the OP,
disgusts me.

If those pupils were my children I would fully support that teacher and they would get a thorough telling off from me as well.

Oldagepensioner · 30/06/2018 07:35

*the OP disgusts me.

CloudAtlas81 · 30/06/2018 07:51

Haven't read the full thread but surely a massive part of this is what was shouted? And how long the shouting lasted?

I have shouted at late students on trips before....I have also been the one to go and deescalate a situation in the way the second teacher did. Context is key and we have very little of that info. So surprised at how many people are happy to make judgements based on one bystander's view.

I have also sat next to said students on the way home and explained how worried I was, how scared I was for them and that I probably had my 'parent hat' on when I shouted. I don't shout in the classroom generally. I also rang the parents before we got back to let them know the full details of what had happened.

This is because I genuinely care about them. I was frightened for them and by their actions. Yes I am a professional, but a professional with duties that include acting like a parent. Not in terms of shouting (I don't) but in terms of caring.

ushuaiamonamour · 30/06/2018 07:57

borntobequiet Correction--'comprise'. You were right the first time.

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 30/06/2018 08:04

Completely not the point here, but when did schools start doing trips to theme parks? It's not something they did when I was a kid. All our trips had to have educational value. Are these treats or something?!

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 30/06/2018 08:13

@TheHodgeoftheHedge ours is a reward trip for kids with the highest number of merit points and attendance at 98% or above.

MoonsAndJunes · 30/06/2018 08:28

OP. You obviously have absolutely no idea how much crap teenagers dish out to their teachers - because they 'can'.
Some (obviously not all) teenagers are fire retardant - I can totally relate to the poster who said they had students arriving late because 'they knew that the coach 'wouldn't dare go without them'. Some teenagers are bolshy, inconsiderate and selfish. FACT.

MoonsAndJunes · 30/06/2018 08:29

Just to add, thankfully they are in the minority.

WakeUpMaggie · 30/06/2018 08:31

I'm with you OP. And I'm not the sort to criticise teachers for every little thing and like you I, do alot to support the school. But no one can say it's right that a teacher shouts so loudly he is heard 75m away and the kids are in tears. Yes they were wrong for being late but he is a professional (assuming he is a teacher) and should have dealt with it better.

Blobby10 · 30/06/2018 08:42

It would be interesting to know how the girls approached the teacher when they were 20 minutes late . Did they amble up laughing and joking like they expected the world to revolve around them? Or did they run up full of apologies for getting the time wrong? If its the former then I can understand the teachers reaction

crispysausagerolls · 30/06/2018 08:45

It makes me sad to see how many children and teenagers these days are under-parented and undisciplined. That’s why we live in a growing society of entitled little shits.