Was your daughter on a school trip at Alton towers today?

[Zzz1234]

Was she late for her bus? did the teacher lose his rag at her in the middle of the entrance area? If so is she ok?

Can’t believe what I saw today, two girls were 20 mins late back, yes they should be in trouble but they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them, I was 75 metres away and could hear everything I felt so sorry for the girls. I was in a queue and I wasn’t talking about it to the other people in the queue, I was about to go over, but another teacher did.

Would love the name of the school to make a complaint to. Heat is not an excuse, I have lived in hot countries and never saw a teacher lose it like he did.

I know it’s not Aibu but posted here for traffic....

HRMTheQueen
It’s quite simple.

It should be

The OP saw a teacher shouting at a child

Yep, although she said screaming

out of control.

She doesn't know this, its an assumption.

FYI, I'm not ashamed and haven't defended it.

@pieceofpurplesky

I like your teacher teamwork description! That is some clever and under control work:) I have fond memories of teachers we are really liked who were able to outsmart us with discipline in ways like this. We weren't hideously behaved kids, but of course teenagers are still learning boundaries for themselves and other, plus figuring out how to be young adults and who they are. The good adult guidance is so important and valued by students too, I'm not sure if that surprises you, but it is!

i was never trouble, but we were teenagers, of course we were not perfect and easy all the time. We had teachers who managed trips to other countries for two weeks with us, they managed such a balance of giving us adult freedom, demonstrating what it was to be grown up adults too like you did when you explained that your "bad cop" colleague was scared for them and that's why they were upset, as well as giving us shape to our world, letting us know what was acceptable and where our limits were. It's all such important life skills, I had teachers I was very fond of and who were fond of me shout my name now and again to have me stop talking, (usually when I overstepped the mark on what is was appropriate to say in a discussion in class, I was a smart cookie, but in a teenager's mind, so I might speak up when it would be more sensible to let something go, now I know, but I learned this, including through teachers who gave me this guidance on how to be my best self), or maybe I used language that wasn't so classy and therefore definitely wasn't appropriate, so a quick sharp reminder that they expected better of me was helpful.

It's all very appreciated is what I would like to say. I have incredibly fond memories of teachers who had the skills to help shape us in a thoughtful and kind way and I am very grateful!

Steps away from the chavvy British teachers...

HRMTheQueen facts I'm afraid. Although on a rough count up of backseat teachers on this thread, we may just fill the vacancies of almost two schools near me if they all sign up! Anyway I'm taking QueenoftheSilverDollar12 up on her offer, you bring the bucky, I'll bring the white lightening and we can toast to these blossoming teachers, happy to join the club and get harassed by kids / parents at theme parks and strangers on mumsnet. Hurrah!

Give over OP

My friends kids were screamed at for being an hour late, the teacher missed her son’s graduation because they didn’t do as they were told.

HRMTheQueen psssst... (whispers) I'm pretty sure queen is Scottish. The references to scones and buckfast were the give away....

Thecrabbypatty You do realise that “British” includes the Scots don’t you?

Is this what you call a “reverse”? Posters pretending to be teachers but acting ignorantly so teachers get a bad name?

I know a few Scots who prefer to be called Scottish so I'm simply pointing this out marylandmary

And can't speak for queen, she could be Mary Berry for all I know but she paints a very convincing picture if not.

Thank you @Thecrabbypatty , finally someone else has said this!

Yes, for information, please don't use the phrase "the Scots", it is for many reasons not comfortable or well received. It's also outdated and has a label feel to it.

Gonnae no:)

“The Scots” is commonplace is the States. Half my neighbours are Scottish and use it!

Amused that a British person didn’t know it was included in British though!

Oh FFS. Stupid selfish brats get told off. Boo hoo.

I used to work for a big outdoor tourist attraction that gets multiple group visits all year round. Once had a school group of year 8 and 9s. About 300 kids in total. They all returned to the buses at the end of the day except for one boy (13 year old). None of the other kids claimed to have seen him during the day. He'd split from his mates as soon as they'd been let loose. Against the rules. He wasn't answering his phone. Teachers were panicking after 20 mins. A full scale search was organised with every member of attraction staff searching the grounds and various buildings. Still no sign. Police were called after 30 mins.... The attraction was officially closed by now but staff still searched. His parents were informed but hadn't heard from him either. 2 hours later the bus (and the rest of the pupils and staff) finally departed back to school. Leaving the police to search for him...

3 hours after he should have been back at the bus, Boy walks into his home address. He'd got bored of the attraction and gone shopping in the City centre and then caught a train home. Oblivious to the drama and worry he had caused. I think the police gave him a severe telling off when they caught up with him. Never mind the school

@marylandmary

Half your neighbours are scottish as in were born there, grew up there and then moved as adults? To possibly Maryland?

Or half your neighbours have some distant link, weren't born there, never lived there, don't have parents or grandparents who did grow up there, have never even been there, or any selection of the above?

I found in the States, the latter was a popular way to identify with a nationality. UK passports are not just handed US green cards or citizenship, half a street of neighbours from a small country where people by and large prefer to stay rooted moving to a very large one sounds bizzare!

Amused that a British person didn’t know it was included in British though!

No idea what this means. Please tell me you are not referring to the English language as "British"!

marylandmary that's fine, but I'll have to refer you back to LuMarie if you want to argue the toss

Oh, British people include Scottish (and Welsh and Northern Irish)!

Yeah, no one seems to know that, or bother to take care with using England when they mean the UK.

Sometimes the last part is good though, because it's good not to be associated with some of the craziness going on in the UK!

No idea what this means. Please tell me you are not referring to the English language as "British"!

No. One of the British teachers on this thread didn’t know that the Scottish were included in the term “British”.

We just had the Maryland Celtic Festival with the Highland games and everything. There’s a huge interest in all things Scottish here, the Scots helped form Maryland.

BoneyBack
But you have it down so that he cannot, whatever he does, be anything other that either an abuser or someone that lost control.

And the reason those two conclusions are unthinkable is...?

If your answer includes the phrase 'because he is a teacher' or words to that effect, then you have lost me.

Branleuse Fri 29-Jun-18 23:33:16
I think it sounds quite harsh, but tbh can you imagine being in charge of a large group of teenagers at Alton towers in 30 degree heat and not getting angry if some annoying little bastards wouldn't come back on time when everybody else bloody managed it.

I don't have to imagine it.

The OP has stated that there was a second teacher there who didn't go ballistic. If one teacher could manage it, then maybe the other one could have too.

Oh Mary. Mary, Mary Mary.... I'm glad you tucked safely away in the "Highlands" of Maryland. Over to you LuMarie

Yes, as I wrote, I saw the clarification!

The important question isn't answered

Do half your neighbours have some distant link, weren't born there, never lived there, don't have parents or grandparents who did grow up there, have never even been there, or any selection of the above?

Also, "Celtic" is Irish, not Scottish:)

@Thecrabbypatty

Well I recognise the Scottish lady in you:)

Oh Mary. Mary, Mary, Mary..... take cover

That's my people:)

I am not sure that 'British' includes Northern Ireland or the Northern Irish.

'Britain' and 'Great Britain' refer to the island off the nw coast of Europe. 'Great Britain' also refers to the political entity that includes England, Scotland and Wales.

'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland' refers to the political entity in its entirety, with all four of its constituent parts. Northern Ireland is always separate from 'Britain' and 'Great Britain'.

'Celtic' is not 'Irish' only. It also covers Scottish, and other peoples/languages/cultures of the north western fringe of Europe. It's not entirely scientific in all its usage.

It is a term referring to Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Cornish and Breton languages and, unscientifically, to the alleged 'Celtic' culture found where the 'Celtic' population of western Britain, Scotland, Ireland, and Brittany lived.