Was your daughter on a school trip at Alton towers today?

[Zzz1234]

Was she late for her bus? did the teacher lose his rag at her in the middle of the entrance area? If so is she ok?

Can’t believe what I saw today, two girls were 20 mins late back, yes they should be in trouble but they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them, I was 75 metres away and could hear everything I felt so sorry for the girls. I was in a queue and I wasn’t talking about it to the other people in the queue, I was about to go over, but another teacher did.

Would love the name of the school to make a complaint to. Heat is not an excuse, I have lived in hot countries and never saw a teacher lose it like he did.

I know it’s not Aibu but posted here for traffic....

So, two girls were 20 minutes late back to the coach. Everyone is waiting, teacher is stressed and worried, dealing with a coach load of teenagers, hot day, al trip he probably didn't want to go on because of the risks involved. Teacher shouts. Really- do people honestly think a teacher shouting about this will damage the girls-? Get a grip!

They deserved it how rude turning up 20 minutes late! They won’t do that again and might learn some manners.

I think @planetsweet has had a sense of humour bypass @Thecrabbypatty. I don't know whether to be impressed or disgusted I've been called a chav tbh. Toddles off to dig out her pink Juicy Couture velour trackie and sovereign rings. Checks fridge for vodka and irn bru and orders kebab whilst arranging to send 14 year old DD to get some MD 20/20 and Buckfast vin tonique from corner shop.

"Has anyone here ever been humiliated by a teacher/parent/whoever in public, how did it feel (even if a punishment was in order). Pretty sure it felt crap, maybe it will make them think about their actions in future, however I still don’t agree with it"

Yes, OP, I have been shouted at/humiliated by a few teachers, it doesn't feel great, but it's not meant to?! I survived anyway, and most of the teachers who shouted had good reason to.

@CadyHeron

What's the fact he's male got to do with whether or not the teacher should be shouting?

That's a good question, I should have explained what I intended when writing this.

I am not stepping into any women's rights/equality etc territory, that wasn't what I meant. Here good god no!

What I meant is that when angry and shouting loudly, as a female teenager, I would be more frightened by a man shouting in anger. I might be upset or embarrassed by a female teacher shouting, but I don't think I would be scared by that dynamic. As a male teacher, I think he should be aware that shouting at young females in anger may frighten them. Equally, in another scenario, shouting aggressively at teenage boys may not be sensible because 16 year old boys can be strong, confident and may shout back. Hormones everywhere and teenagers still finding their balance. I think female teachers also have to consider their behaviour around students and be sure to take care, it's all teachers who are dealing with students who are somewhere between adult and child.

So that's all I meant, it was a situation specific observation. If the characters were different in a similar situation, I can still see space for similar responses from everyone, no matter their opinion, but it was the adult man shouting incredibly loudly at teenage girls and the potential for this to be frightening that concerned me.

Do I think it will damage the girls?

Possibly.

Do I think it will damage their view of the school and teacher?

Likely.

Do I think they should have been chastised?

Absolutely.

Can you name me one other arena in life where shouting at someone in the manner the op described is regarded as acceptable and appropriate.

Sports coaches?

Law firm
Banking
Soft play center
Lifeguard shouting at children to play safely
Police

Fair enough then lumarie but if he did frighten them by shouting at them then it might make the message sink in and they're less likely to do it again, are they?
Sounds like it had the impact it was supposed to have.
If teachers aren't even allowed to shout now without parents going mad, no wonder they think they can do what the hell they like.

No, no sports coaches, not at all.

Some do it, doesn’t make it right and it is practiced by the uncontrolled, the total opposite of how you need to be in sport.

What’s with this weird believe that someone shouting st someone will turn them into a broken person for life

My school trip left me at Alton towers when I was a teenager. I'd have rather been shouted at.

Can you name me one other arena in life where shouting at someone in the manner the op described is regarded as acceptable and appropriate.

Sporting teams coaches

you clearly haven't frequented football clubs - with two football mad kids here over several different clubs over the years - coaches can't half yell loudly when they want!

applesandpears56 The teacher was shouting through anger, not warning.

That loss of control is never acceptable. Soft play? Police? No!

Indeed - shouting showed at least he cared and was worried about them
Much better than remaining calm and collected and setting off back without them
Parents shout sometimes, teachers shout sometimes- they are human

Sports coaches - maybe in the 80s

Willadmit to not knowing mischief shouting banking, the law firm my friends own definitely not maybe others

Who the hell is bollocking down kids at soft play till the cry and can be heard 75m away? Complain to your council

Police - not so much. Possibly 30 yr ago now they have a different approach. I'm pleased to say my local force is being made ACE aware and trauma informed and would not as matter of course engage with people likethat.

SWAT team on tv definitely.

I think all you people who have shouting/anger issues need to ask yourself why? It’s part of a range of normal human emotion - do you never cry either?

Offended? I'm excited! QueenoftheSilverDollar12 I'm throwing off my staid teacher persona and adopting that of my new found tribe! My girls at school are going to love it! I can finally find out what bashment music is and learn to recognise the Snapchat logo instead of referring to it as 'the funny bell shaped thingy logo" which has never since been forgotten. I'm concerned about how my appearance will go down at the local grime club, but I'm pretty sure I can make it work, just need to take a few inches off my shorts and dig out my circa '95 chicken fillets and push up bra!

marylandmary
The teacher was shouting through anger

Allegedly. Nobody other than the teacher knows.

Crabby and Queen, you’re digging a hole and making fools of yourselves now

Entertainers, musicians, Artists, Artistes, can be a bit shouty imo musical directors, choreographers.
Anyone passionate about their profession. Including teachers.

BoneyBackJefferson Pretending or not, that is how it was perceived by others, thus the thread.

If teachers aren't even allowed to shout now without parents going mad, no wonder they think they can do what the hell they like

My mum would've gone mad as well - but at me rather than the teacher .... if she ever found out because I wouldn't have had the nerve to tell her!

@QueenoftheSilverDollar12 and @thecrabbypatty (if you is Weegie based too) this thread reminds me of when via the Army I took a group of kids from MaryHill out sailing around the Clyde Coast worst fun ever, had a less stressful abusive time while serving than this group of 10 year olds!

marylandmary

by the OP no-one else was there.