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Was your daughter on a school trip at Alton towers today?

675 replies

Zzz1234 · 29/06/2018 18:42

Was she late for her bus? did the teacher lose his rag at her in the middle of the entrance area? If so is she ok?

Can’t believe what I saw today, two girls were 20 mins late back, yes they should be in trouble but they did not deserve some teacher screaming at them, I was 75 metres away and could hear everything I felt so sorry for the girls. I was in a queue and I wasn’t talking about it to the other people in the queue, I was about to go over, but another teacher did.

Would love the name of the school to make a complaint to. Heat is not an excuse, I have lived in hot countries and never saw a teacher lose it like he did.

I know it’s not Aibu but posted here for traffic....

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alltoomuchrightnow · 29/06/2018 22:32

well , at my secondary school (in the 80s) if certain teachers yelled, they also through lab stools across the room at you at the same time.. or if they were feeling kinder, chalk dusters. And yes they aimed for the head..and often hit their target.. so shouting.. hmmm...

alltoomuchrightnow · 29/06/2018 22:32

(Oh yeah, we got caned too...)

CadyHeron · 29/06/2018 22:32

“That poor teacher” my arse. They were unprofessional and not fit to look after children

Were you there? Thought not.
For raising a voice and shouting. Shouldn't have been late if they didn't want telling off, should they?
This thread is very enlightening as to why we have so many entitled brats around who think they're untouchable.

Masterbuilders · 29/06/2018 22:34

Social services would never get involved for someone shouting at their child.

So many people who don’t have scooby on this thread. The mind boggles. It’s snowflakes like are on this thread which are causing issues like below. That and a generation of children ‘who know their rights’ and not much else.

www.tes.com/news/violence-against-teachers-secondary-staff-three-times-more-likely-be-attacked-average

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 29/06/2018 22:34

Great idea @Anasnake. And I'll slip a couple of cans of Monster to the biggest 'characters' at lunchtime too. And Haribos for the rest.....am just awaiting a DM from @qwertyuiopy to arrange a suitable Friday now 😉

Beehiveyourself · 29/06/2018 22:34

alltoomuchrightnow But the authorities stepped in because of behaviour like that.

Do you think in observed teaching practice or role play in interview that a teacher wanting a job would shout at a child?

Thecrabbypatty · 29/06/2018 22:35

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 you have the makings of an excellent reality TV show there, particularly with the wasps, window cleaner, heat, associated BO issue and double tier seating. I think you should float it with BBC3.

qwertyuiopy · 29/06/2018 22:35

CadyHeron You weren’t there either lol!

WilsonPhillips · 29/06/2018 22:36

It does sound like a very extreme, uncontrolled reaction from the teacher but I'm wondering if perhaps once they'd got back late they'd been cocky or eye-rolling when told off and after a long, hot, stressful day he'd just lost it?

RolyRocks · 29/06/2018 22:36

I'll look forward to seeing you teach bottom set year 9 last thing on a Friday....

That was me this afternoon but worse; a bottom set Maths Year 9 Cover lesson last period, in a classroom where the windows don’t open properly. It was like pulling teeth. Sad

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 29/06/2018 22:36

@Beehiveyourself eh? Do you know anything about the process of teacher recruitment/training versus taking a bus load of teenagers to a theme park during a heatwave and two rocking up late? 🙄 honestly......

Thecrabbypatty · 29/06/2018 22:37

And we should have a klaxon ready to sound every time our visitor raises her voice, just to remind her that shouting is not OK.

BoneyBackJefferson · 29/06/2018 22:37

Some schools/teachers just get on with it. Others whine.

replace schools/teachers with anything/anyone else and you have the human condition.

Beehiveyourself · 29/06/2018 22:38

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 Yes I do!

RJnomore1 · 29/06/2018 22:38

I did not suggest social services would get involved.

I suggested the advice on here would be all them.

I was highlighting the double standards on here towards largely untrained parents struggling with the emotional reality of teenage parenting and a highly trained professional who really should know better.

I work with an amazing teacher who has just been promoted to HT and is shit hot on behaviour management and I have never heard him raise his voice.

If you cannot exercise self control get out of teaching and stop damaging our children further.

And no I'm not saying they shouldn't have been in trouble.

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 29/06/2018 22:38

Fab idea @Thecrabbypatty....I think I will do that...like Grange Hill on acid...

Teateaandmoretea · 29/06/2018 22:38

Do you think in observed teaching practice or role play in interview that a teacher wanting a job would shout at a child?

Hmmmmm are you suggesting there is a disconnect between theory and reality? Surely not 🤔

BoneyBackJefferson · 29/06/2018 22:38

RolyRocks

shh, you will be accused of whining.

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 29/06/2018 22:39

@Beehiveyourself then you'll realise your comparison of the two situations is ridiculous then.

Teateaandmoretea · 29/06/2018 22:39

I have never heard him raise his voice.

Well that hardly means it's never happened does it...?

Beehiveyourself · 29/06/2018 22:39

BoneyBackJefferson This is true. But people in a profession caring for children should set an example.

neveradullmoment99 · 29/06/2018 22:39

Oh so true.

This thread is very enlightening as to why we have so many entitled brats around who think they're untouchable.

I see this everyday in the classroom.

Beehiveyourself · 29/06/2018 22:41

This thread is very enlightening as to why we have so many entitled brats around who think they're untouchable.

I see this everyday in the classroom.

What? The teachers? Grin

alltoomuchrightnow · 29/06/2018 22:42

Beehive, they never stepped in re these particular teachers..and it was numerous teachers. We just took it on the chin quite literally! We knew not to talk in class (which was all it took to provoke the wooden stall throwing) or we'd get it. We knew where we stood and we didn't have rights because we weren't snowflakes.
No, I don't think anyone wanting a job would shout at a child. But it happens. Hardly an easy job! A hot day, a school trip... a worried teacher because two pupils haven't turned up... exactly the same happened when I was on a school trip (mid 80s) and two teachers had a screaming match in front of us over the latecomers. Not exactly professional but completely understandable.
But then I've had a lifetime of shouting(at me)... father, teachers, employers, ex partners.. it's just the norm to me, and that's not a healthy thing I know
But probably, these girls got off lightly

CadyHeron · 29/06/2018 22:42

CadyHeron You weren’t there either lol!

True, but that's why I'm not coming out with inane comments like "not fit to look after children" just because some randomer on the internet said a teacher was so norty as to SHOUT at a teenager who kept everyone hanging and made the staff rightly worried.