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To wonder why the still play Michael Jackson songs?

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stellenbosch · 29/06/2018 15:40

What with the #metoo movement and so many actors, entertainers, directors, singers and comedians being (rightly in most cases) shutdown, why do they still play Michael Jackson songs on the radio?

I automatically turn it over. Why does he get a free pass? Because he's dead? I thought though all the allegations were proven? I don't get it?

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SnapeIsMyHero1 · 29/06/2018 17:32

If he was guilty then surely it would have been like Jimmy Saville with people coming forward after his death?

PrettyLovely · 29/06/2018 17:34

I have always believed he was innocent, he was also found to be innocent.
I think this thread needs taking down I am also reporting it, Its in very poor taste.

x2boys · 29/06/2018 17:41

i remember watching the interview with Martin Bashir years ago and I did actually beleive MJ when he said he was like Peter pan etc, i think he was an odd ball, extremely Naieve, and very possibly a survived of childhood abuse himself...

SnapeIsMyHero1 · 29/06/2018 17:46

I have reported too. This thread adds nothing and is simply rehashing old shit which has been proven to be inconsequential. It's unnecessary and unfair on his living relatives who dont need debate on something that has already been dealt with by the law.

midnightmisssuki · 29/06/2018 17:47

Oh god. What do you want from this post? Everyone to say yes, he was awful wasn’t he? Then what? Do you boycott all Roman Polanski’s films? HW’s films?

Are you going after his estate? To sue them because you feel like he’s had a free pass? No? Then what do you want from this? To be told if you are unreasonable about thinking MJ got a ‘free pass’? Yes, YABU, hth.

MoreAndLess · 29/06/2018 17:54

It’s pretty impressive that some posters can tell that Micheal Jackson was or was not an abuser.🙄 Personally I don’t think you can speculate without knowing the facts and ‘facts’ that get released in the press and actual facts aren’t the same thing.

TringDingDing · 29/06/2018 18:22

The same court system also from OJ Simpson not guilty. Yeah, like that system can be trusted.

TringDingDing · 29/06/2018 18:23

*from = found

LuMarie · 29/06/2018 18:28

I'm confused, why are some people so offended that they have reported this post?

I think it's a sensible discussion and it's one that is now being talked about a lot in many circles because of metoo and the many things that have come to light.

A lot of people say they separate the art from the artist, some feel it depends on the circumstances i.e. type of accusation, found guilty or not, the way the person responded to allegation etc, others say absolutely no I can't support that now.

Woody Allen - pp mentioning child's mental health, did a judge not also say that he believed a child had been coached to report things that didn't necessarily happen? For me marrying adopted child is way beyond anything I can find acceptable, I don't like his movies either, so I'm already out

Weinstein - bizarrely for someone who watches a lot of movies, I haven't seen very many on the list. Given that he has admitted things happened, the massive pattern, the charges etc I would deliberately avoid a film he was involved in from now on, but he was taken out of the company. I don't think he can still profit, can he?

MJ - for many, culturally, musical genius and huge influence in those areas. Very complex personal story and unusual character yes. Importantly, was found not guilty. No other cases came forward. As ops have noted, misleading and questionable evidence reported all over the place. It's purely speculation really and I absolutely can't say for sure, other than to say he has died, he is not profiting in any way, he was found not guilty and if anyone else wants to appreciate his music, that's for them to decide.

Gottokondo · 29/06/2018 18:32

He didn't get a free pass, he was innocent. Why should hebe punished for domeone elses lies.

Innocent until proven guilty. He wasn't proven guilty so he was innocent.

Op, I could claim the most hurtful thongs about you, should you be punished for my lies?

stellenbosch · 29/06/2018 18:32

LuMarie

You are the voice of reason!

Why would people report this? Can we no longer talk about ANYTHING?

Ffs, what is happening?

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Gottokondo · 29/06/2018 18:32

Sorry for the typos

stellenbosch · 29/06/2018 18:34

Sorry for your content! You don't 'know' he was innocent. You can't prove it.

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FuckPants · 29/06/2018 18:35

Are you suffering from heatstroke OP?

Gottokondo · 29/06/2018 18:37

You can't prove that he was guilty. Do you believe that everyone should be punished for all accusations?

LuMarie · 29/06/2018 18:37

OJ was a very different case though, legally, the hearing itself and cultural context.

Although I agree that more often that not, court cannot be trusted. It's just innocent until proven guilty is the default.

UmmMeToo · 29/06/2018 18:40

I believe he was guilty, what normal man has and wants access to so many children and want them to stay over at his house and in his bed. Just because he got found not guilty doesn't mean he was, just means at that time there wasn't enough evidence. Google Wade Robson, who worked with him as a kid and see what he has to say and how it's affected his life. There were so many child actors around him at that time and it's a bit suspect that many of them have serious drug/MH problems. People just don't want to believe it unfortunately. If it was your next door neighbour having sleepovers with children, you would all think very differently . He was however an extremely talented man, with excellent songs.

stellenbosch · 29/06/2018 18:47

Of course you can't know he was guilt either. My point is, all these ppl are saying "he was innocent", they don't know that.

I don't know either way. I was just wondering why the music was still being played, when other people in the industry seem to have been 'punished' for seemingly less...

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Olddear · 29/06/2018 18:48

I'm not sure his living relatives will be reading MN

PrettyLovely · 29/06/2018 18:48

"I'm confused, why are some people so offended that they have reported this post?"
As I previously said its in poor taste, The man is dead and was found not guilty, Let him be.
OP has also shared false allegations.
MJ was bullied all his life by the press sharing the bullshit claims is wrong.

RunMummyRun68 · 29/06/2018 19:01

op...are you also an abuser? cos we don't know do we? just like with MJ....SPECULATION

or is it defamation of character or something?

SnapeIsMyHero1 · 29/06/2018 19:09

@stellenbosch

"Of course you can't know he was guilt either. My point is, all these ppl are saying "he was innocent", they don't know that."

People are saying that he was found innocent by a court of law. Yet you seem to think you know more than the judge and jury...

LuMarie · 29/06/2018 19:13

@PrettyLovely ok, I understand where you are coming from, thanks for explaining.

It was a genuine question, not a sarcastic one:)

I see your point on the poor taste.

I don't think the OP deliberately shared false allegations though, it is difficult to keep up with all the different people now involved in various issues and varying degrees, plus no allegations were technically found to be false, it was not guilty in court, many others were not taken to court.

LuMarie · 29/06/2018 19:15

@RunMummyRun68

I don't want to be critical or get into an argument, but I have to say that I think that comment to the OP is uncalled for and too far.

RunMummyRun68 · 29/06/2018 19:27

Ah well Lu I'm not too bothered ta Smile.

Not a shred of evidence to convict the man. Abusers are everywhere but he wasn't one

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