To resent the men disrupting feminist chat

[Angryresister]

It seems to me that Mumsnet used to be a place where women's and girls issues were named and talked about by clever witty women . Now we are being shouted down by [redacted on OP's behalf by MNHQ] which exists to deny women's reality. Good brave women are leaving as they are no longer able to talk about their concerns. So many women have become more aware of the issues here. I am angry that mumsnet are allowing this to happen

Oh, vomit. There’s no cult, nobody’s reality is being denied and a lot of the ‘men’ you’re talking about are women.

Its not MNs fault They dont really know what a new member is going to post until they post it.

Well it's not a section I frequent so I've no idea whether this is a valid concern but I clicked on a thread in active tonight out of curiosity and the response a man got in there to what I thought was a reasonable question reminded me quite frankly of why I keep well away as a rule.

Oh come on. Seriously?

Tbh I think the feminism chat is an open and frank place and they're certainly not being silenced in there

I don’t know who is disrupting who but it is very sad regardless if we can’t have sensible debates . Being able to speak without fear of abuse would be nice.

Social media is generally awful to women who are expressing opinions and it makes me livid.

I agree op. Sadly, you'll probably get a "strike" for posting this and assuming the gender of posters.

Oh, vomit. There’s no cult, nobody’s reality is being denied and a lot of the ‘men’ you’re talking about are women.

Males cannot be women.

Well, j Oly joined in the last few weeks so I don't know what used to happen or how it's changed. I am starting to read the feminism threads, although I don't always understand them. However, I never used to think I was a feminist, but now I think I might be! So I've learnt some stuff and I'm quite impressed

I think actively ignoring them and refusing to engage would be a workable strategy. Refuse to be shouted down by rising above the bullshit dogma.

sooty just being nosy - what was the question? I've never noticed men being treated differently.

Agree - just because you feel you are a woman as a biological man doesn’t make it so. It makes you a man who isn’t connected to the stereotype of what it is to be male. Time to look at expanding that instead of the default mode ‘I must be a woman then’.

If we base anti-discrimination and protected characteristics on feeling could I say I feel like a 70 year old and claim age discrimination if countered ( as my birth certificate says otherwise ) or could I draw my pension?

I feel an old soul, honest guv’.

Oh yes and YANBU.

To be fair, Helena, once the "new" poster has posted the same shite under half a dozen names they should know.

I agree with the op, by the way. I sort of have the opinion that men shouting "there is no problem here" isn't going to convince women who think there may be a problem. Whatever the topic.

And if you (the op) is talking about the shitty "I don't want to pay for women on dates" thread, I suggest that people AS that particular posters posts on other threads.

Because he's a misogynistic shitbag.

Maryzs thats the thread i was going to mention...........the incel who posted last night.

He's still going Helena. He seems to think he can educate us all on all sorts of topics.

MNHQ seem to think he's genuine, as in they are allowing him to pontificate all over the place.

I really hope that if he's genuine his on-line-dating continues to be an abject failure

The thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3287436-Paying-for-dates

Mary i tried AS It just brought me back to the main AIBU board.

If he's been a pain on other threads I stand corrected. I didn't AS him.

Obesessed hmm? I got a pm this afternoon but i have no idea whether it was from him or not?

He hasn’t been a pain. He asked a question and a reasonable discussion started, then some of these people jumped on him and were massively abusive.

Well ive linked the thread Lu so people can decide for themselves.