To resent the men disrupting feminist chat

[Angryresister]

It seems to me that Mumsnet used to be a place where women's and girls issues were named and talked about by clever witty women . Now we are being shouted down by [redacted on OP's behalf by MNHQ] which exists to deny women's reality. Good brave women are leaving as they are no longer able to talk about their concerns. So many women have become more aware of the issues here. I am angry that mumsnet are allowing this to happen

Why was i asking about a pm?

OH WHATS THE FUCKING POINT

YOU WONT GET ME TO LEAVE THE SITE IT WONT WORK,

HelenaDove, please just shrug them off after reporting the personal attacks. Goady effers gonna goad till they see it doesn't work or get a rise out of you.

That was in response to your ridiculous accusations You are coming across as incredibly abusive.

Nobody here is being shouted down. Some people with views post comments and then other people post replies. That's what I love about MN. I don't want to be in an echo chamber. Hearing people with totally different views to you isn't being shouted down.

Incel type posts and troll posts are nowhere near the majority. In general men are not taking over FWR. Although there's an awful lot of chat about men who cross-dress most of the posting isn't coming from the men.

I think insinuating I know something about an unmentioned pm and that I have an issue with social housing is an offensive personal attack.

Unfortunately reporting “personal attacks” doesn’t do much. Otherwise none of you would still be here.

Which accusations?

The ones where you suggested I knew something about a random pm and had a problem with social housing?

That justifies screaming?

LuMarie - does a lot of that go on on this side of the divide? This 'taking down' of a woman because of posts referencing anal sex and shaving that I appear to be witnessing?

FWR is a cosy duvet by comparison....

I think it would be better keeping this sort of bat shittery in feminism area

People who hector don't seem to realize how it reads to normal people.

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Regarding FWR, we are having a bit of a troll invasions since so many women left over the security breach that endangered them and the new rules about not hurting the feelings of one special group.
AIBU will be in deep yoghurt if they applied the same rules here as they do on FWR.

Yes, battshittery back to “feminist” please.

Wait for it “YOU WILL NOT SILENCE ME”

Good god. Take it outside please

You wouldn't last a day under the FWR rules of feelings over facts.

“Facts”

Strike free here and a genuine feminist. No bigotry on behalf of our daughters, granddaughters, nieces and selves, the usual defense in an echo chamber of screeching and antagonizing.

Confident that’s not the case there and that’s why most stay away.

Iwanka ive just glanced through the thread youve linked. I think our mistake is to be women with opinions.

ahh.................just thought of something.

RabbitsAreTasty

Bless your innocence

The trans movement isn't about men who cross-dress. It's about men who want to erase female women by legally becoming women themselves. All those sex segregated rights that we have as women - and for good reason (the safety, privacy and dignity of ourselves, our mothers, our daughters, nieces, etc.) - are under threat and the FWR boards is one place where women are resisting this movement and fighting for women's rights - your rights! To safety, privacy and dignity. It's not about dissing transpeople - it's about fighting for women and girls.

i barely touch the trans threads. Ive been on the odd one or two and asked the odd question .............thats it.

This is why i think this is about even more than this..............its about women having opinions full stop.

HelenaDove - move away from this. It's not worth your time nor effort. It's toxic.

Move away.

It is also about the access that predators will have to previously safe women’s spaces using the self-Id angle.

If your biological rights as a woman become non-existent because the newly defined legal definition of woman denies the biological reality, those long fought for protections are obliterated.

Then we move onto the issue of sex offenders who want access to vulnerable women using the self-Id clause to move to women’s prisons.... who would otherwise be spending years in a men’s unit.

This is all based on a pressure group who are dictating an agenda and silencing women and their legitimate concerns. I consider it discrimination against women.

Hope this turned out interesting and funny enough for you siwel

There are a number of women who believe a parenting forum should be the place for a battle royal between TRAs and ‘gender critical’ feminists. Lots of references to Spartacus and ‘dying on this hill’...,

Sorry, posting on an anonymous forum is not heroic in any sense. You may get a numb finger from jabbing at a keyboard, but that is the limit.

However, some posters are blatantly offensive to trans people. Yes, they might be telling the truth but you don’t call a fat person fat or fat and ugly, regardless of the literal truth.

The aim of MN is to attract new parents, let them chat a bit and sell them things. It is not a charity or campaigning site. It will occasionally appear as such in order to virtue signal and build loyalty but, as soon as things get ugly, they will take a big step back,

They know who is spending the bucks and that is the audience they want. They will do what it takes to keep the site civil.

If the trans issue is do big and important, fund a campaign properly. Many have access to money, clearly very many have close to unlimited time to give. Take some risks, give some money and time. Then you may have some claim to being ‘spartacus’.

**Sorry, posting on an anonymous forum is not heroic in any sense.

Without such women posting on here, I simply wouldn't realise the extent to which women's rights are being eradicated and silenced, so I do thank them for that and I do think it is the right place to reach a mass audience of women.

True, I never realised the extent of the issue until I read it on here. However a point can be clearly made without hyperbole or nastiness.

It did thanks. I knew this was going to happen and it did, I don't find the issue we are discussing funny, I simply find the attacking between two posters comical as it's so random and unneeded.