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to think we're reading too much into Melania's jacket?

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PolkerrisBeach · 22/06/2018 14:24

Wearing a jacket with a message saying "I don't care, do you" on it to a detention camp is a very weird choice.

But all the people saying it's a message about immigrants, or a message about her feelings on her marriage or whatever else is... stretching it a bit.

She's a woman who isn't known for her towering intellect and is stuck in a marriage to the orange one. She never wanted to be first lady. She has been dragged into stuff she has no interest in.

So she's grabbed a coat without pausing to think about it, and been seen wearing it before someone could provide something more appropriate. It;s not a message. It's the actions of someone fairly dim and uneducated, and who doesn't understand the political game.

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JuicySwan · 22/06/2018 16:18

“Grabbed a coat” 😁

Yeah I bet she’s always forgetting to pick her keys up too.

InsomniacAnonymous · 22/06/2018 16:18

mydietstartsmonday Like I said, it was to appeal to Trump supporters, who will agree with the sentiments on the jacket.

PaddyF0dder · 22/06/2018 16:24

My arse.

She’s a former model. A obscenely rich person. And the US First Lady.

You really think she just happened to have a cheap £40 coat from Zara lying around? My arse she did. Her socks probably cost more than that coat.

It stands to reason that she would put considerable thought into what she wears, and that her staff would also contribute.

No. Come on.

This was a deliberate “fuck you” to the Trump critics.

dudsville · 22/06/2018 16:26

As the wife of s world leader there's never an appropriate time for that jacket.

DarlingNikita · 22/06/2018 16:29

I agree with Paddy. Her own intellect aside, I just cannot conceive of all the White House advisers and stylists and assistants she must have collectively not realising what message the jacket would convey.

PolkerrisBeach · 22/06/2018 16:30

OK so she didn't just grab it off the White House coat hook.

Still don't get what kind of message she's trying to send. Surely the whole point of a message is that people understand the meaning or symbolism?

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Echobelly · 22/06/2018 16:32

I just think it was a ridiculous bit of thoughtlessness on someone's part, so yes, I think people are reading too much into it.

specialsubject · 22/06/2018 16:42

unless you are a brat, a total arse or a fool there is no way that coat should be worn.

is she just one or all three?

Copperbonnet · 22/06/2018 16:45

I don’t think it was a fuck You to Trump critics. I think it was a fuck you to her husband. She only wore it in Washington as she walked away from the White House.

Ever since the Stormy Daniels story broke she has been quietly going against the White House machine.

She didn’t appear in public for weeks, travelled separately from her husband and had her team publicly contradict Mr Trump’s lawyer.

I can guarantee that Trump and his team didn’t want her anywhere near that detention centre. She went anyway.

This women dresses very beautifully and very carefully for every single event. The coat was a message to Donald.

I bet he’s furious.

Aragog · 22/06/2018 16:47

So she's grabbed a coat without pausing to think about it,

Does anyone really think that someone in her position, on such an important visit, just 'grabs a coat' on their way out? And that no-one will be checking and advising on her clothes? Really?!

BertrandRussell · 22/06/2018 16:48

“Yes but she boarded the plane very biblically”

This is probably my favourite typo ever.

Theworldisfullofgs · 22/06/2018 16:53

Either she's naive or stupid.
Probably both.

So no we're not reading too much into it because someone in the extensive team surrounding her knew. And given what Trump said about immigration laws today, it's fairly obvious that this is just the start unless the US gets it's act together.

Copperbonnet · 22/06/2018 16:55

Either she's naive or stupid.
Probably both.

Why? Why is she either of those?

BesmirchingMotherhood · 22/06/2018 16:57

YY, I’m with copperbonnet.

She’s shit-stirring with her DH. I thought it as soon as I saw her statement about the family separations.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 22/06/2018 16:59

Also, agree with PP’s, there’s no way in hell she even owned this coat til now.

SegmentationFault · 22/06/2018 16:59

Trump tweeted it was referring to the fake news media or something like that. Of course anything The Great Orange One tweets should be taken with a mountain of salt, but it does suggest it wasn't a complete accident.

onalongsabbatical · 22/06/2018 17:01

Copperbonnet I completely agree with you. I think Melania has just realised that her husband can’t get away with bullying her while they’re in the public eye, and so she’s decided to engage in a war of messages with him. I think she’s saying to him that she doesn’t care what he thinks about her any more. I don’t think this was a comment on her view of the migrant situation at all. I think she genuinely does care, so much so that she’s decided that she will now stand up to him.

I could be wrong, but I'm going to continue giving her the benefit of the doubt until proved otherwise, because surely she has it hard enough at the moment and she seems to be emerging from the shadows in a positive way? I really don't think she's as heartless as him, I just don't. I think she's only just gained enough confidence to be a bit more seen. Being her the last couple of years must have been horrendous, thrust into the public eye in a way she had never expected and wasn't equipped to handle.

SoftBallSophie · 22/06/2018 17:04

She knew exactly what she was doing....she just chose the wrong moment to do it as it now appears she meant she doesn't care about refugee children, when if fact it's probably Donald she doesn't care about, or his string of mistresses. She should have worn this coat on a different outing.

PolkerrisBeach · 22/06/2018 17:06

I really hope it is a "fuck you" message to Donald. She probably knows enough to bring down his Presidency.

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ltk · 22/06/2018 17:09

Is anyone else looking forward to the eventual Oprah interview, a few years from now, where it all comes pouring out?

PaddyF0dder · 22/06/2018 17:11

I’m amazed at the incredibly supportive tone towards Melania Trump.

Eh what now?

First she marries Donald Trump. She knew EXACTLY who and what she was marrying. She’s not a child, and she doesn’t appear to be an idiot. She knew.

She can leave at any time. Nothing is stopping her. If anything, her leaving would be hugely damaging to Trump. If she truly wants to go against him, that’s the way.

She doesn’t. She remains with him. She supports him. Because she doesn’t really give care. And because there’s money to be made in being Mrs Trump, and money to be made in being FLOTUS.

Honestly. She’s neither a victim nor a hero. She’s a willing accomplice.

VladmirsPoutine · 22/06/2018 17:13

We aren't reading too much into it. Whatever the symbolism or statement behind it is imho neither here nor there because in her CAPACITY as FLOTUS she shouldn't be wearing a coat with that sort of message to anywhere, let alone a meeting with refugee children. It's clear she resents her position as FLOTUS and would give it up in the next hour if she could but yet here she is. Just as bad as he is all be it in a different way.

Member745520 · 22/06/2018 17:16

onalongsabbatical

I think she’s saying to him that she doesn’t care what he thinks about her any more. I don’t think this was a comment on her view of the migrant situation at all. I think she genuinely does care, so much so that she’s decided that she will now stand up to him.

^^ this. This was my immediate interpretation too, and I'm glad to see others have felt the same.

TheFirstMrsDV · 22/06/2018 17:16

That coat cost less than forty quid.
I doubt she has socks that cost that little.
That coat was deliberate.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 22/06/2018 17:18

Not understanding the political game is neither here nor there. Wearing a slogan saying I don't care do you while visiting children with have been wickedly separated from their parents is something a narcissist wouldn't do.
Mind you i don't suppose she does care. After all her and hers are alright Jack, aren't they

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