School and 'rules' re shorts under dress

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Before I take this further quick 'poll'; does your school insist that girls wear shorts under their dress if they want to mess about at break time in a way that could involve someone seeing their knickers? Would you expect a rule like this? My daughter is saying that her school and her after school club have told her off for doing gymnastic 'moves' during break time whilst wearing a dress with no shorts or tights underneath. She says she's been told it's 'rude' because people can see her knickers. She is 6yrs old btw. I think this is completely bonkers and she should be allowed to do as she wish as long as she is not actually showing her 'privates' to people on purpose. Underpants are underpants and are not offensive (to me). Of course I don't know yet how much she has actually been told off, or whether it's peer pressure rather than school so I'll go and ask later. But thought I'd gather some views!

@liz70 I'm not for one minute saying your daughter or all daughters need that either. I'm just saying that's our thing in our house and my view. I wouldn't give a monkeys banana what other parents did

teach my 3 year old (only just) dd politely not to have her knickers on show. This teachers her boundaries and what is or isn't appropriate. It teaches her to respect her body and in turn to respect others.

If you feel so strongly that underwear must never be glimpsed, why don’t you simply provide her with appropriate clothing for play?

Also I don't think it's about perverts for me it's about her and her body and being in control of what other people see

@battleaxe but then depends if the 1 layer is doing its job appropriately.

This is making me want to go and dangle by my knees from a climber my frame

@battleaxe but then depends if the 1 layer is doing its job appropriately.

What does that mean?

If you think your child’s outfit is unfit for purpose, bin it and provide a more suitable one. Don’t make them layer them.

😂😂

@Battleax why is putting a wee pair of shorts under a dress such a big deal? If the general consensus is that girls need to be able to play while having their genitalia covered. On a hot day she might want to wear a summer dress, I don’t want her play restricted because of that.

Also I don't think it's about perverts for me it's about her and her body and being in control of what other people see

Yet another good argument for shorts, trousers or culottes.

There seems to be this bizarre type of parenting where you dress your child for the aesthetics (pretty gingham dress) and then imbue them with a deep sense of self consciousness about just living their lives in said outfit. It really is most strange.

But why do you need shorts to cover genitals when you’ve already got pants on?

Because pants move, they’re not always well fitting, and often skimpy.

Sorry hit wrong button on this silly phone. It means if a child's underwear fits correctly and doesnt expose them then fair enough but if a child is doing handstands/ sitting crossed legged and their knickers and skirt dont cover them then its not appropriate ( in my opinion) like pps have said its more about them exposing themselves than just their knickers. Unforutnatly most childrend knickers ive come acorss dont alway stay in place and show more than they should.

Like I said, if people don’t want to that’s fine. Just don’t bash me for doing it!

@Battleax why is putting a wee pair of shorts under a dress such a big deal? If the general consensus is that girls need to be able to play while having their genitalia covered.

Pants cover genitalia. That’s literally their job.

Do you double up on clothing? Shorts under dresses?
Leggings under shorts?
Trousers under skirts?

If you wear a shalwar kameez, and your DD is following suit, that’s one thing.

But Lycra shorts over pants, but under dresses, are not western clothing patterns and they’re not really comparable to something cool and practical like a shalwar kameez, either.

What strange messages these girls must be getting about female clothing conventions and their bodies.

What strange messages these girls must be getting about female clothing conventions and their bodies

Was that necessary? As it happens I only wear jeans, so that’s irrelevant for me. But tops I often put a vest underneath if it’s see through. My choice.

Unforutnatly most childrend knickers ive come acorss dont alway stay in place and show more than they should.

This is the point at which someone usually recommends Boden for sturdy girls’ knickers.

Pants cover genitalia. That’s literally their job

Only it’s been established that they don’t always. Especially when cartwheeling/climbing.

No, thank fuck. Pants are designed to cover anything that should be kept covered. And what about the risk of UTIs?

This is definitely a thread about the wrong sort of pants.

If everyone was wearing proper, functional pants then the world would be a much less confusing place.

I’ve never come across these skimpy children’s knickers that don’t stay on, so I can’t really comment other than to go back to banging my culottes drum

They’re loose and airy and you can get gingham blouses to go with them if you are attached to the idea of gingham

This thread is really funny.

No, thank fuck. Pants are designed to cover anything that should be kept covered. And what about the risk of UTIs?

And the thrush. Horrible.

I’ve got her shorts tbh, and the gingham dresses (that she picked) I’m in no way pushing skirts/pinafores/dresses on her. I just don’t see the harm in adding shorts under a dress. And I really, really don’t see what the fuck it has to do with anyone else!

I don't want her to feel that flashing her knickers by accident is something to be ashamed of

Unfortunately other people will make her ashamed, you can't control that. Showing your knickers is frowned upon even for children. Doing handstands/cartwheels in a skirt is going to expose her knickers, and many adults and children consider this inappropriate or embarrassing. Other children may laugh, tease and make fun, which will make her ashamed.

One of DS's girl friends does the most amazing cartwheels, and is constantly practising, but I see her bum cheeks every time.
I'm not in the slightest offended, normal human body etc, 7yo, who cares, BUT, I wish she wore bigger knickers! Because of all the jumping around, they're like a thong half the time. Little briefs are IMO inappropriate for someone who spends half of playtime upside down.
Any kind of big pants would be fine, no shorts needed on top.