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Morrisons refused to let DD pretend to pay for the shopping...

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AllTheseThingsThatIveDone · 15/06/2018 19:36

Because my shopping included a bottle of wine.

Often pop to my local Morrisons for small top up shops. Popped there this morning to buy a few bits, including a bottle of wine. DD aged 3 likes to 'help' me at the self service checkout, scanning the shopping, and then at the end I lift her up and she uses my debit card to make the contactless payment, or puts the coins in etc.

Today as I was about to lift DD up to pay, the lady overseeing the checkouts rushed over to stop me and said DD wasn't allowed to pay for the shopping. She said it wasn't allowed as then the alcohol could actually be for her, or the debit card could actually be hers. When I pointed out that DD is only 3, and the debit card was mine, and it was clearly me really paying for the shopping she said it didn't matter Hmm

AIBU or is this completely bonkers? I could totally understand this if I had an older teenager with me but it feels like there is no common sense anymore Confused

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thesnapandfartisinfallible · 15/06/2018 22:08

It's even better when you imagine a three-year-old using her own debit card to buy wine for her mum.

Clearly OP is raising a goodun Grin

Twotabbycats · 15/06/2018 22:10

So at what age is it acceptable for a child to be with a parent who is buying alcohol? Are supermarkets forcing parents to leave 7-year-olds outside alone while they buy a bottle of wine with the weekly shop? Because surely they would be putting the child in a potentially dangerous situation?

So glad I no longer live in the land of Big Brother.

nokidshere · 15/06/2018 22:14

Again just because someone says they're 26 or another person says they're 26 how is someone meant to know?
I always told cinemas I was 18 and got in a few times when I was 16 and 17.

If you want to buy restricted products bring ID simples

I get that and agree that there is a grey area, but I'm 57 and I do not look like I could pass for anywhere remotely near 25 sadly. There is a point when people look much older than 25 and the operator should be able to distinguish that too

DieSchottin93 · 15/06/2018 22:14

@WatermelonGlitter a colleague of mine had to ID her own son because he was under 25 when he came in to buy his cigarettes Confused Absolutely absurd but those are the rules. No ID, no sale, it's a simple as that. I've had to ID friends before even though I know they're the same age as me and if they don't have any ID on them then I couldn't sell to them.

lilyfire · 15/06/2018 22:14

A shop owner refused to sell my 11 year old son some playing cards. I went and asked him why and he said it was illegal to sell them to an under 16. Not sure where he got that idea.

YorkieDorkie · 15/06/2018 22:16

YABU. Sales assistants, bar staff etc are PERSONALLY responsible for upholding the laws on alcohol sales. They can't hide behind their big company. Why should anyone risk losing their job or being prosecuted?

MyNameIsFartacus · 15/06/2018 22:18

My 7 year old scanned and paid for a bottle of Malibu in a basket shop at Tesco earlier, no one batted an eyelid!!

AppleKatie · 15/06/2018 22:20

Two things;

  1. You, as a parent are crazy! teaching your children that all they need to do is tap your card on a machine. Roll on 10 years and you will be on here moaning that the banks allowed payment for something you didn’t buy because your teen took your card out of your purse and tapped it in a store.
This is hilarious. Are you seriously suggesting that if I don’t let my toddler do this my teen won’t know how to defraud me in ten years?
  1. Lots and lots of talk on this thread about potential fines/trouble. Does anyone actually know anyone who has got one of these fines in this situation?
9amTrain · 15/06/2018 22:20

@lilyfire Sounds like he got confused with scratch cards Grin

NotUmbongoUnchained · 15/06/2018 22:23

I got ID’d in Asda last week.

Buying peppa pig cutlery for my son.

TammySwansonTwo · 15/06/2018 22:25

Ah yes, just sell alcohol on the black market. There’d be less of that big band jazz music, and those annoying flapper people who are everywhere...
give it up Tammy, no-one is going to get that reference

Raulingtons · 15/06/2018 22:31

I was refused Lemsip at Sainsbury's as I didn't have ID to prove I was over 25. It was 7:30am and I was dressed in a suit for work with an absolutely streaming cold.

I asked how old you had to be to buy it and was told 16. I asked how old the checkout assistant thought I was - 24 apparently (I was 30). So she thought I was a whole 8 years older than I had to be to buy it but still refused.

I laughed and went to Tesco where the self-scan doesn't even flag it as age restricted.

SecretRed · 15/06/2018 22:32

I got ID'd buying alcohol earlier in Morrisons. I'm 38. I was buzzing!!

Not as chuffed after reading this thread though and finding out it's quite common!

DiegoMadonna · 15/06/2018 22:32

Kids shouldn't be playing with contactless debit cards and adult machines imo. Some things are for adults to do. You wouldn't let them play with a banking app

Wtf? All the weirdos are online tonight.

tenbob · 15/06/2018 22:34

All the MN armchair legal eagles are out in force tonight!

Of course trading standards wouldn't prosecute in a case like this
What planet are you all on confidently declaring this is 'the law'?!
Watching too many episodes of Rogue Trader doesn't actually bestow any legal qualifications, fyi

Strugglingtodomybest · 15/06/2018 22:39

God this thread is funny and depressing at the same time.

Bowerbird5 · 15/06/2018 22:43

I was refused the alcohol on the conveyer belt at Tescos once because my daughter17 had lifted it down from the shelf because I couldn't as I had a splint on. It was four small bottles of Bacardi Breeze. I had a couple of bottles of wine and some cider too. I was told I might be buying it for her. I said but she doesn't drink. No still not allowed. I said it is for her 18th birthday she was having a party. The drink was for friends and relations.The trolley was full of party food, banners saying HB 18 etc. jobs worth wouldn't have it.

I wanted to tell them to stick but couldn't face buying all that food again. Stopped at local co op on way home and bought the alcohol.

BertieBotts · 15/06/2018 22:46

Usually a sensible policy is that when there are a group of young people together all of them need ID for even one of them to buy alcohol.

It's not really sensible to apply this to family groups shopping where there is a significant age difference between the child and the adult. Whether they are 17 or 3. If nothing else it is actually perfectly legal for adults to give their own children alcohol at home under supervision, as long as they aren't forcing them or getting them dangerously drunk.

I suppose the difficulty comes where parents are buying alcohol on behalf of their teens where the intention isn't to drink at home under supervision - and this does happen. That might be why stores have implemented bonkers blanket policies.

Miladamermalada · 15/06/2018 22:50

Wtf? All the weirdos are online tonight.
Clearly. Bankcards are not a toy.
HTH

nottinghillgrey · 15/06/2018 22:50

What planet are you all on confidently declaring this is 'the law'?!

Eh? What planet are you on. It IS the law!

GrumpyOldMare · 15/06/2018 22:54

Of course trading standards wouldn't prosecute in a case like this

No,they wouldn't.
The police can though.
My evidence? Years of working in pubs/licensed restaurants.It's not worth the risk of a fine/prosecution/possibly jail.

DiegoMadonna · 15/06/2018 22:54

Clearly. Bankcards are not a toy.

No, it's just a piece of plastic. There is no harm in a 3 year old tapping it on a payment machine.

MaisyPops · 15/06/2018 22:57

Raulingtons
I had similar. Went to the local Tesco Metro to buy cake, plastic cutlery and napkins for my class. They refused to serve me without ID. Needless to say the students in the vicinity found it hilarious and was making jokes like 'Mrs Pops. Are you buying dangerous weapons?!' right next to the tills. I was tempted to complain actually because there's no way I look under 18, I'm in workwear, I had my staff badge on and there's students in the queue calling me Miss. It's a pretty elaborate plan if I'm after some plastic knives for weapons. I don't have to prove I'm over 25. The law is 18 do you either think I am over 18 or you aren't sure. IDing me for plastic knives because you weren't sure which side of 25 i was is ridiculous (it's the older side obviously).

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 15/06/2018 22:58

I got ID’d in Asda last week. Buying peppa pig cutlery for my son.
I haven’t been ID’d for 20 years Envy

angryburd · 15/06/2018 22:58

I fucking hate the word "jobsworth". Usually thrown about by entitled arseholes who aren't used to hearing the word "no".

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