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To be fucking furious that a Tory MP just prevented upskirting being made a criminal offence?

379 replies

gracielacey · 15/06/2018 15:17

Tory MP Christopher Chope has just singlehandedly prevented the passing of the private members bill supported by the government that would have made upskirting a sexual offence, by shouting Object.

Can I urge you all to leave a message on his parliamentary office answerphone and email him to ask why he thinks men should be entitled to photograph women's genitalia?

(Post Edited by MNHQ)

OP posts:
AlecTrevelyan006 · 15/06/2018 22:28

He does not object to all PMBs - he’s even introduced some himself and voted in favour of others. I just don’t understand why this lie that he's acting out of principle keeps being repeated

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Indeed. He is an odious hypocrite.

LifeBeginsAtGin · 15/06/2018 23:01

Does anyone know how many prosecutions there have been in Scotland under this offence?

melodybirds · 15/06/2018 23:10

Watching Newsnight and he's also objected to...

Posthumous pardon for Alan Turing

Hospital parking charge exemption for carers

Civil partnership and equal marriage

The hunting ban

The use of wild animals in circuses

Protection of police dogs

And more...

PlanetPiffle · 15/06/2018 23:12

I can only assume that the way to get this passed would be to include a part of the bill making it illegal for women to shove phones down men’s trousers and take pictures.

The problem is that..

a) some men seem to like doing this to themselves anyway and sending the resulting pics to women - presumably in order to sexually assault them by text as no-one could possibly be tantalised by a flaccid penis

b) I’ve never heard of a woman committing this particular crime and so therefore by it’s rarity it does not require legislation to prevent it.

Christopher Chope is an utter wanker and a disgrace to his party and his constituency.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 15/06/2018 23:12

Oh he sounds like a delight Sad

Bearfam · 15/06/2018 23:13

I'm livid about this too

SinisterBumFacedCat · 15/06/2018 23:16

So July 6th, next chance for bill, is a Friday....

AIBU to think he'll do it again

lubeybooby · 15/06/2018 23:24

Only reasons I can think of he could possibly want to block it are

  1. he enjoys upskirt porn,
  2. he has been paid off by someone who likes upskirt porn,
  3. he's a massive fuckwit.

Now options one and two I don't get why they can't just use sites that pay consenting models, so if it's one of those options it must be that they also like that it is illicit/stolen/with no consent. Vile.

VanGoghsDog · 15/06/2018 23:25

I think he'll be rugby tackled to the ground on his way into the House on July 6th. Utter utter bell end.

IHATEPeppaPig · 15/06/2018 23:29

Apparently he objects to all of the PMBs- these are not very well attended and he sees it as a lazy way of getting into law, particularly given that someone cango to jail for it.

I absolutely agree with the bill and it should be introduced in law but I kind of see his point, I mean it apprears that one MP tried to get a foreign national should be deported if they take a can of beer into a football stadium passed through.

Just to add, I am definitely not a fan of the tories.

seafret · 15/06/2018 23:31

This makes me so angry. The apologists can go to hell. What could there be to debate? Any MP could have, should have and many probably did, make themselves aware of all the facts before the vote which was why it already had government support and was expected to pass. The necessary details will be worked out and scrutinised at later stage. It could never be bad law - the debate is only for whether it is needed, and to any right thinking person, it clearly is.

If he doesn't speak for all Tories then prove it and expel him from the party.

I think out of respect for women and common decency we NEED to see the bloody HoC full to bloody bursting on July 6th.

If every single MP (only extreme exceptions excused) does not show their face to vote on this bill with their fullest support, then we will know exactly where evil lies and has a hand in enabling it.

IHATEPeppaPig · 15/06/2018 23:32

JRTFT oops it appears that this has also been discussed - in that case, he is just a fucking bellend then.

ohfourfoxache · 15/06/2018 23:33

I’ve emailed number 10 asking for something to be done about Chope. I’ve explained that my preference would be to have him deselected, although making him wear skirts for the remainder of his time in Parliament would also be appropriate.

LifeBeginsAtGin · 15/06/2018 23:35

Does anyone know what the legislation actually said?

crazycatgal · 15/06/2018 23:41

What an absolute twat Angry

busybarbara · 16/06/2018 00:27

Good news Theresa may had now said it's going to be official government policy. We did it MN.

SnartyFartBlast · 16/06/2018 00:40

WineHaloGlitterball

LapsedHumanist · 16/06/2018 00:44

YANBU. I think his chickens are going to come home to roost over this though.

He apparently objects to Private Members Bills a lot. But also introduces a good number himself. I think there is some kind of warped sense of gatekeeping going on.

notdaddycool · 16/06/2018 00:47

Strangely it’s more likely to become law now, as to rectify the plonker the government will push it through themselves. I think even a second reading of a private members bill is a long way from law.
He’s a dinosaur but the vast majority of the Tory party agree, it’s not because he’s a Tory it’s because he’s a nob.

SnartyFartBlast · 16/06/2018 01:08

I've just read on the internet (so it must be true) that he once put forward a PMB suggesting we change a bank holiday to Margaret Thatcher Day.

As a scouser - It would be a cold day in hell before I got involved in that shite.

FurryDice · 16/06/2018 04:14

How do we, the people, get rid of cunts like this?

PomPomtheGreat · 16/06/2018 04:18

Though the ballot box.

LapsedHumanist · 16/06/2018 04:23

“Chope’s A Chump!”

“Recall Chope!”

-Ron Swanson

FurryDice · 16/06/2018 04:39

Every single thing he’s blocked says outright that he’s a fucking cunt.