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Is Catherine Zeta-Jones BU?

186 replies

MissionItsPossible · 15/06/2018 09:08

She famously said a million pounds wasn’t a lot of money and boasted of collecting houses like other people collect art.

If you think that was big-headed, brace yourself – because Catherine Zeta-Jones says she’s had enough of being modest.

The Welsh star, who is married to Hollywood legend Michael Douglas, says it is high time she stops apologising for her £200million fortune, stunning looks and Oscar-winning talent.

Catherine, 48, says: “One thing I’m not is humble any more. I’m sick of being humble. I really am. ‘So sorry I’m rich, so sorry I’m married to a movie star, so sorry I’m not so bad looking.’

“No sorrys. Enough. All that is important to me now is my work.

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/catherine-zeta-jones-says-shes-12707737

On one hand I say good for her, on the other it comes across as twatty.

OP posts:
moonoflove · 15/06/2018 18:01

Why hoard hundreds of millions in the bank when there's so many worthy causes in the world. Why on earth is it odd to think that maybe give a fair chunk away to worthy causes, and not just the rich and famous, that applies to everyone worth that much. Of course people give money away money that they miss, that is true charity. How strange that you wouldn't know that. Confused

Want2bSupermum · 15/06/2018 18:11

moon Being worth $200m doesn't mean you have $199m in the bank. Also most people with that sort of net worth have a lot of people that they have to pay to keep everything moving. It's not about having people to keep you in luxury but about maintaining your value.

They have their DC at school here in NYC. For a home that gives them enough security it's going to cost at least $2m in the burbs and more in NYC itself.

Strokethefurrywall · 15/06/2018 18:20

I don't understand your point. Are you saying charity isn't true charity unless it truly makes a dent (in finances or time) that is felt by the person donating it?

This is your take on wealthy people and that's fine, if you feel they shouldn't have millions upon millions in the bank, whatever.

But lamenting that the rich and famous don't really believe in the charities and worthy causes they support with time and money because they're still worth millions is desperate to say the least. How much of your time and money do you donate? That's not a trick question btw, I'm sure you will respond to say that you work for a charity or donate 1/3 of your income of whatever, and that's your god given right and well done.

But getting in a tizz about CZJ not really doing work for charity because she doesn't feel the pinch when she donates it, is a bit tenuous.

HollyGibney · 15/06/2018 18:30

I think she sounds thoroughly obnoxious. She was never a particularly good actress and I think her star would have long faded if she hadn't married into Hollywood Royalty. I watched a celebrity golf tournament with her once - well about five minutes of it, too cringe to watch anymore and the way she pouted and flounced around really put me off her. Great life, good for her but she certainly didn't get it all under her own steam and I don't agree that you never see men being humble, look at the likes of Hugh Jackman and Chris Hemsworth, super successful and very very likeable because they are down to earth and yes, humble. Boasting about yourself and your worth is never attractive, in a woman or a man.

Fontella · 15/06/2018 18:51

Catherine Zeta Jones was in terms of physical appearance - stunningly gorgeous when she was young, but I don't think she's aged particularly well if I'm honest despite all the cosmetic enhancements and beauty treatments her 200 million have bought her.

On the list of middle aged female celebrities who I admire or find inspiring in some way she wouldn't even feature. I also don't think she's a great actress - not even close. I can think of dozens of female British actors of similar age, who never went to Hollywood, who never married into Hollywood Royalty who i consider far more attractive, talented, inspiring individuals.

Also the fact that her life for many years has been in America - she so rarely crops up on the radar in UK Media ... so I'm not entirely sure where these comments have come from?

Do we know the context in which these remarks were made?

moonoflove · 15/06/2018 18:56

furry you made the strange point that people wouldn't donate to charity if they'd miss it. Do you want to explain that, or did you not mean it. No i didnt mean that it was only charity if it was missed, but true charity is when you give but have hardly anything yourself. Read the parable. I'm not worth £200 million, so give over with the "what do you do for charity. Fwiw i believe that very rich people DO have a duty to do a lot for the less fortunate, they are the ones who take a lot out of the worlds resources, of course they should do plenty.

supermum who are these people they employ to "keep things moving", how many of them are there? Confused, don't exaggerate, you'll be telling me next they're skint, with all their payouts and stuff.

Want2bSupermum · 15/06/2018 19:06

moon They have lawyers, agents and PR people that they need to pay on a retainer basis. I would estimate that alone is $500k-$1m a year.

Having staff, stylists etc is a choice. Having a security team is needed and costs a lot too. I would estimate their annual security costs are lower because of where they live.

moonoflove · 15/06/2018 19:19

supermum They're worth £200 million, are you trying to imply that they aren't THAT rich, by mentioning all their payouts. Have you any idea how much money that is. We can argue about about anything about them but please, let's not argue over their wealth. Let's just suffice to say, they are seriously wealthy. Having lots of staff will hardly make a dent in the interest.

LynetteScavo · 15/06/2018 19:25

I don't really have an opinion on this.

I just know I wouldn't be sorry if I happened beautiful and rich. But I wouldn't think I was better than other people.

LucheroTena · 15/06/2018 19:25

I don’t think the words humble and CZJ have ever been seriously uttered in the same sentence. She’s D list in both talent and behaviour.

KERALA1 · 15/06/2018 19:39

Cringe!

Have been told I look like her more than once Grin. My dh way better than hers but sadly don't have the £200million

Strokethefurrywall · 15/06/2018 20:27

...you made the strange point that people wouldn't donate to charity if they'd miss it. Do you want to explain that, or did you not mean it. No i didnt mean that it was only charity if it was missed, but true charity is when you give but have hardly anything yourself.

You've just contradicted yourself in the same sentence. True charity? You're judging people based on what you deem to be a worthy enough amount based on someone's wealth.

Charity isn't a parable. I donate to charity. I donate time and money. I don't miss the money I donate, my children don't go without, I can still afford nice things. Are you saying that it's not true charity because I don't think 'I can't afford to donate this but I'm going to anyway...'? What an utterly ridiculous notion.

Aside from the fact that most of the world's richest people (celebrities among them) probably do the most philanthropist work by virtue of having the capabilities, finances and exposure to raise monies for any charity of their choosing. And yes, to raise their public profile. But frankly, if money goes to charity, who cares right?

Oprah Winfrey regularly donates 20% of her wealth. And she's still worth $200 million. Would you apply the same thinking to her? That she should donate more because she's still worth an obscene amount of money?

Want2bSupermum · 15/06/2018 20:31

moon you asked about what I meant about hiring people to keep things moving. You never asked about their wealth. I never said $200m is not a lot. I'm just saying that because of their field and their profile they have certain expenses which come with it.

Inkanta · 15/06/2018 20:41

“One thing I’m not is humble any more. I’m sick of being humble. I really am. ‘So sorry I’m rich, so sorry I’m married to a movie star, so sorry I’m not so bad looking.’

She sounds irritated to me - probably with Hollywood fakeness and pretension. That's what she's surrounded by I assume, and paying the price for living amongst it. She probably craves real authentic down to earth folk - like from her Welsh roots who call it what it is.

MrsJayy · 15/06/2018 20:56

inkanta that is a really intersting way of looking at it maybe she is just mega pissed off Grin

moonoflove · 15/06/2018 21:08

supermum there's no point in mentioning their outgoings. They're worth £200 million. Anyone with that amount will have outgoings. They are still seriously wealthy, pointless to mention them unless it's making a point that they don't have that much money.Its like saying the Sultan of Brunei can't be that rich because he has a lot of outgoings. Why are you trying to downplay their serious wealth. Confused

moonoflove · 15/06/2018 21:12

furry i don't think you understood my point about the parable, but never mind. You appear to want to argue for the sake of arguing, I don't wish to continue talking to you. Please don't bother responding.

moonoflove · 15/06/2018 21:19

The Widow’s Offering
41 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.

43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.”

There you go furry, the parable. It's not hard to understand, but it makes my point quite clear. I'll just leave it there, you might just learn from it. I'm going now, i refuse to continue in the ridiculous merry go round.

MrTumblesSpottyHag · 15/06/2018 21:55

Well, I don't think she should have to apologise for those things but surely there's a middle ground between constantly apologising and outright boasting? Do we need to know how many houses she has?

MissEliza · 15/06/2018 21:58

Moon thank you for that. It was read at my dgm's funeral and it really touched me as it made me respect my dgm's modesty and simplicity.

madcatladyforever · 15/06/2018 22:03

Why do women apologise for everything, men don't and nobody has a go at them!

Want2bSupermum · 15/06/2018 22:14

moon I'm responding to your post where you say people have money in the bank. Most people don't keep huge balances in the bank. To say CZJ is worth £200 million doesn't mean she has £200 million in the bank. The majority of this net worth will be held up as fixed assets in property and other assets such as investments and companies that they own.

Strokethefurrywall · 15/06/2018 22:44

moonoflove - yeah I know the parable love, I was raised in a Catholic household.

However the parable has no place in this modern day discussion about relative wealth and how much you think rich people should donate before they're deemed charitable enough. Jesus doesn't come into it really.

But it seems to me that you have a stubborn bee in your bonnet about rich people and wealth, so I don't think it's worth discussing it further with you either. Win win.

LillianGish · 15/06/2018 23:15

I’d question whether she was as ever humble in the first place - she’s always seemed pretty pleased with herself (remember her weird speech about getting to sleep with Michael Douglas every night). Has anyone ever asked her to apologise for being rich and successful. I’d probably put the pair of them into the category of has-beens these days - my teenage dcs certainly wouldn’t know who they were. They have plenty of cash, she looks pretty good - though better before surgery - she’s completely deluded about how desirable her husband is, but then she’s the one married to him so who cares? It says a lot about how far her star has fallen that this is what she has to do to get some publicity these days.

LillianGish · 15/06/2018 23:17

Re the charity thing - don’t she and Douglas live in a tax haven (Bermuda) - so obviously not that keen on sharing out their good fortune.