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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think £17 an hour for a cleaner is unreasonable?

120 replies

Misericord · 13/06/2018 21:43

Is genuinely not sure if I am BU here.

We moved to London a while ago and are looking for a cleaner. The one we had out of London was £13 ph (and AMAZING). Most of the people we’ve got in touch with recently haven’t responded and the one that has has said £17ph.

AIBU? Or is this just the cost of a cleaner?

OP posts:
Magicmonster · 14/06/2018 08:39

I guess it depends a bit on how efficient your cleaner is and how many hours they do. Our cleaner is lovely but not particularly efficient (to be fair she is about 65 now and only does a couple of clients a week). It takes her 5 hours to do our 3 bed/3 bath house (no cleaning under furniture, no cleaning inside things like microwave and no ironing). I imagine some of the £17 an hour cleaners may be accomplishing the same amount in 3 hours.

Antonia87 · 14/06/2018 08:46

I'm sorry, being a cleaner is an unskilled minimum wage job with a top up as not full time hours. £10 a hour is about right in this market. More than working in Tesco and being a carer for the elderly. Christ! I have a Masters and 20 years experience and only got £15 a hour !!!

PrincessCuntsuelaVaginaHammock · 14/06/2018 09:10

Who are you to decide what's right for a cleaner though? They decide what they want to charge, if nobody pays it they have to charge less, if someone is willing to then they've come to a mutually acceptable arrangement, and why are you concerning yourself with other people's private business dealings?

Fuckitbucket13 · 14/06/2018 09:18

@Antonia87 it may be unskilled but believe me there are a lot of crap cleaners out there. I provide an excellent service, I'm honest & reliable.
More than working in Tesco?
I charge what I want if people are willing to pay fine.
A masters & still only.on £15 ph. I'd be pissed of too.

Shumpalumpa · 14/06/2018 09:20

Princess

The clue is in the word 'think'. It's OP's opinion and she is allowed to have one. She hasn't 'decided' what a cleaner should charge, she only knows what she is willing to pay. Weirdo.

WickedLazy · 14/06/2018 09:21

"Why the fuck should a cleaner get more????"

Only realising now a job you look down on so much, pays so well? 🙄

Luisa27 · 14/06/2018 09:24

Seems a little high...my sister is in Parsons Green and pays £15 an hour

SendYouUpinFlames · 14/06/2018 09:24

Unreasonable. I charge 9.50 PH. 10.50 PH weekends.

Battleax · 14/06/2018 09:24

I would imagine this is the social cleansing of London starting to bite. Rents have increased along with house prices. Anyone living in London on a cleaners wage must be struggling quite badly now. There will be some cleaners who are owner occupiers or secure council tenants, but that’s a limited pool, so cleaning charges are bound to go up, one way or the other.

Battleax · 14/06/2018 09:27

I'm sorry, being a cleaner is an unskilled minimum wage job with a top up as not full time hours. £10 a hour is about right in this market. More than working in Tesco and being a carer for the elderly. Christ! I have a Masters and 20 years experience and only got £15 a hour !!!

Market economics Antonia. Maybe you should focus on your career and not other people’s?

DanglyEarOrnaments · 14/06/2018 09:27

£18 per hour - North West

Eatalot · 14/06/2018 09:27

If you paid that much oitside of London surely you would expect to pay more inside.

MsHopey · 14/06/2018 09:27

Seems so mad.
My husband is a cleaner in a supermarket and cleans 15 toilets every hour with shit up the walls, that's right, people spray their shit up the walls. He gets £7.83 an hour. So I always find it mad thay people running the Hoover's round and doing a bit of dusting get £15+ an hour tbh.

Viola82 · 14/06/2018 09:27

central London £12, minimum 2h, look at gumtree as well

OverTheHedgeHammy · 14/06/2018 09:28

If you think it's too much, don't hire them!

Clearly if they are good enough, and enough people are willing to pay it, then that is what she will earn.

If you are in Central London they either also live in Central London, which is very expensive, or they have to travel over to you, again expensive. So clearly the cost is going to be much higher.

And it is in no way comparable to other permanent jobs. What you get per hour for an 8 or 10 hour shift cannot compare to a job which is ad hoc, that you have to take into account travel time for, and that you that you lose money from for other expenses. A 2 hour cleaning job, will be the equivalent of at least 3 hours if you take into account travel time.

PrincessCuntsuelaVaginaHammock · 14/06/2018 09:28

Antonia isn't the OP shunpa, unless she has name changed. Also the clue isn't in the word think, because that only tells us that she has an opinion, not why she considers herself entitled to one. And she didn't say anything to suggest that's only what she isn't willing to pay. In fact she made a blanket statement.

If you're trying to snark dear, best for you not to be so thick.

IMissGin · 14/06/2018 09:29

Basic supply and demand though isn’t it? It’s totally irrelevant that nurses or whoever get paid less (I agree they deserve more than they currently get) because ultimately people don’t want to do their own cleaning and the volume of people willing to do it for them and do it well is lower than the number of people who want to hire them- so they can charge higher prices. It’s only worth what someone is willing to pay.

spanishwife · 14/06/2018 09:31

Doesn't sound like a lot to me

Oliversmumsarmy · 14/06/2018 09:32

Antonia87 dd earns a minimum of £180 for a 12 hour shift plus tips. Usually £40+ but has come out with £50, £60 and once £120 So somewhere between £15-20 per hour
It is a zero hours contract and she is registered as self employed.

BrownTurkey · 14/06/2018 09:36

Sounds like there is a supply problem in your area as the others have not got back to you, hence they can raise rates if they do have space.

Peacefulbanana · 14/06/2018 09:37

12.50 in wandsworth

Oliversmumsarmy · 14/06/2018 09:38

Sorry phone is playing up

Presumably Antonia you knew what your job paid before you studied for it.
I know one of dds other jobs is never less than £250 per day but that one is usually 10 days work 12 hours + per day but comes up intermittently.

MarshaBradyo · 14/06/2018 09:40

Too high
£15 tops
£12 usually
I pay £10 which is low but I got lucky with a cleaner just starting new business

watchingwithinterest · 14/06/2018 09:40

If it is an agency 17gbp is generally accepted.

If private cleaner around 10gbp around here (south west but affluent area) but the prices are rising fast here and I am wondering if we will have to increase soon.

thecatsthecats · 14/06/2018 09:41

My friend used to pay £10 an hour in central London, but she lived in a nice enough area with a high density of clients. The cleaner probably had more or less full time work within walking distance.

I still think £17ph is expensive even for London, but not impossibly so - I'd expect that cleaner to bring all products and be super proficient to be honest at that rate.

I pay £10.50 for a cleaner who I'd say was 7-8/10, usually tip 50p extra if I have the change.