To think £17 an hour for a cleaner is unreasonable?

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Is genuinely not sure if I am BU here.

We moved to London a while ago and are looking for a cleaner. The one we had out of London was £13 ph (and AMAZING). Most of the people we’ve got in touch with recently haven’t responded and the one that has has said £17ph.

AIBU? Or is this just the cost of a cleaner?

I was paying approx 12.50£ph in Chelsea and now 12.50ph in Surrey so yes that’s very high!

SW London £10 an hour.

That is ott even for London. Outskirts here pay £12 but I don’t know anyone in London paying £17 unless it’s to an agency

Near here they are £10-12ph but if you consider living costs I would say that equates to £17 in London. Otherwise how can they afford to live in London? presumably a cleaner isn't in a position to commute for thousands of pounds a month.

mamamia Not for that job I don’t its 0 hours contract, my normal pay rate would be more like £12 then extra for unsociable hours.

Also a bit more responsibility than cleaning, which I do appreciate is not an easy job (I used to be one!)

• a year!!

I’m in Surrey/London and pay £15 per hour so I don’t think £17 is unreasonable. £10 seems very low. The value of someone clearing up your crap, making your life easier, being trustworthy in your home is not to be undersold.

It depends on if the are brilliant or shit? Will it just be that ones person at your house or two?

Cleaning is hard work if it's done properly

photoroseframe

You have quite a big house, was £21 per hour for one cleaner or two?

Fucking hell. If that was a 35 hour a week job that’s nearly £31k a year.

All those that are happy to pay £17 ...

Have you ever considered championing for more pay for nurses ?

Nurses get paid nowhere near that .

£60 for three hours, there are two ladies though. In Wales.

£10-£15 per hour where I am, usually closer to £10, but I'm in Northern Ireland, and that's more than most retail managers, admin, office staff etc make. No holiday pay though, cleaners often can't afford time off. I clean a business, at mimimum wage, but it has more perks atm than private cleaning (I have a contract, holiday pay, and the work is much easier).

£17 sounds about right to me for a nice part of London, I know everything is crazy expensive there, rent etc.

Don't have a cleaner but would have expected it to be around £15 per hour.

DD, 18, no qualifications, usually does 2 or 3 x 12 hour shifts per week as a waitress/manager for £15 per hour + tips as well as other stuff whilst she is gettin her business off the ground.

I would think it was similar

Given the high housing costs in London and/or the commuting costs I can only imagine that £14ph is the equivalent to using slaves

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Think of it as closing the gender pay gap! We pay ours 14/ph not in London.

I pay £12 per hour in midlands

Remember if these cleaners are sell employed they need to put money aside for tax, national insurance, pension plans, provision for taking holidays and receive no sick pay unless they pay an insurance.

I pay £15 per hour just outside Nottingham

Would I clean for less than that? No way

We live in Zone 2 London. We occasionally get a cleaner (ie once every three months or so for a spring clean).

Her stated rate is £12 per hour. We pay her £17.50 per hour provided that she cleans to a good, but not outstanding standard (she always does).

We couldn't clean the flat as efficiently as she does, and our household income is on average £17.50 per hour or more. So it's not unfair to us to pay less than what it would in theory cost us to do it ourselves. But I don't judge others who pay higher/lower rates. It's a matter for each individual client/cleaner really.

If you don’t want to pay, don’t. They are entitled to set whatever rates they chose.

@NoMudNoLotus But nurses get holiday/sick pay/pension/job security etc. I wonder how much difference that makes? (I work for NHS but would much rather be a cleaner!)

This is silly.
My friend works as a suppprt worker with vulnerable families in central London through an agency and gets paid £9.00 an hour. She has a degree and is professionally qualified. No sick or holiday pay. Why the fuck should a cleaner get more???? I think £10 and hour is reasonable for London actually!

@Antonia87 why the fuck shouldn't a cleaner get more? I charge between £10 & £ 12 per hour. I have to put aside money for when my clients are on holiday, sometimes for a month at a time. Tax, national insurance , liability insurance, if I get poorly I can be £300 down a week.
I have keys for most of my clients houses. I go round making sure everything is turned off before I leave otherwise I could burn their house down. It's a big responsibility.
I't's my choice to clean other people houses. if your friend wants to earn more perhaps she should consider cleaning.
I have friends who are more qualified but earn less than me. Such is life.

agreed fuckitbucket13

In Sussex, and here you can't get a cleaner for less than £13ph. There is a lady who charges £16ph, she is fantastic apparently and has a waiting list of clients.

I'd love a cleaner but I only earn £12.36 an hour, supporting vulnerable people with housing problems. It seems crazy to pay someone more than I earn to do the housework.