I don't normally criticise the royals but...

[DorothyL]

... another day of Kate and William away from their tiny baby for a substantial amount of time.

I just don't understand it, when they were this small I couldn't bear to be apart from them.

Now getting my hard hat 👩‍🚒👷‍♀️😬

And who the fuck is looking up to them? that is a remnant from your own upbringing.

I don't care about them. Don't think they are better. Wouldn't curtsy, care or worry about them. I do think that saying that they are detached parents because you don't like the people they work for is just irrational and mean.

I wouldn't criticize any decent parent for living their normal life after having a baby.

I'm not a monarchist.

Oh who cares pallisers i've given my personal opinion, who the hell is it mean to....and yes official photo shoots are staged but i was talking about what i've observed when they're walking about, and i've already said my observations are nothing to do with the fact i don't agree with a monarchy. Why are you so bothered anyway, i never understand this rush to defend the elite, Who the fuck is looking up to them? have you never watched the looks of reverence on people's faces when they're on walkabout?

why are YOU so bothered about me replying to you on a forum?

Are you so special that you can post and everyone just says "oh there goes greenvalley and her observations - off she goes" Get real.

I have already said I am not defending the monarchy. I am Irish for fucks sake. I don't give a curse about any of them. I am responding to your very mean-spiritied and mean comments which may also affect other ordinary women who dare to leave their newborn or don't have the proper demeanor according to greenvalleys when walking about with their children.

have you never watched the looks of reverence on people's faces when they're on walkabout?

I've never understood why people get their knickers in a twist about the fact that some people enjoy meeting the Royal family.

In my last job I organised a few visits with some of the Royals (ribbon cuttings and what not) and it was always a nice day, great atmosphere and brought lots of trade to the local area. I find it quite sad that people would do a cats bum mouth about others having fun

I don't see anything to suggest a lack of maternal attachment personally

Oh, more ice cold parenting. It's like she can barely bear to be near them!!
That grab of the dress if a mother who knows which if the kids is the most trouble!

And because William is a parent too

Last one, I really wish I could sleep

Obviously these people love their children like we all live our own children but let’s not pretend they’re like the rest of us. Do you really believe they were running around like crazy chasing toddlers trying to get them dressed and doing 5 last minute nappy changes before they left the house? It was fine for them. Do you believe they were up all night feeding the new baby and are so tired now? It was done for them. Don’t go on about them being normal parents. They’re just not.

They aren't going to ever be hands-on like normal people, they have staff for night feedings and the like. It's not like they even really have jobs either, just a few events here and there, yet they still have multiple nannies. They aren't just sitting around twiddling their thumbs while the Cambridges change nappies and get supper ready! I also seem to recall they took a two-week trip ages agoto the Maldives while 7-month-old George was left behind. It's just how things are in their circles, really nobody should be surprised by this.

Don’t go on about them being normal parents. They’re just not.

But the point of this thread is not that they are normal parents. It is that they are apparently detached, bad, cold parents. So maybe don't go on about them being bad parents. They're just not.

And of course they are not like the rest of us. Actually most of us aren't like the rest of us (especially if the rest of us are like those on this thread)

They have two other children. Little children. Who probably enjoy spending a day with their parents and without the new baby.

Some women are perfectly capable of being apart from their babies for a day, you know.

I am as far from a royalist as it's possible to be, but the kids are adorable, and maybe Kate and Wills got a chance to spend some quality time with their older children. Looked like they had fun.
Am sure Louis was just fine with his nanny. Dunno what the weather was like down south but might have been too hot for him.

Actually, is that not Louis in one of the pics?

Threads like this really piss me off.
Do you enjoy having strangers pass shitty comments on your parenting? I don't! I would have been heartbroken if someone questioned me when I left my 3 week old with my dad for a couple of hours to watch a play. Literally, 2 hours. I can hear half of you gasping at this.

I loved getting time away from my baby. You’re way isn’t the right way, just different

*your

Wonder if the people moaning actually have 3 kids. Me and DH often have to divide and conquer technique the kids (I have very similar aged children to Kate) so I imagine that’s what she was doing with a nanny/grandma. So one plays with the older 2, the other nurses the baby. Maybe Louis is a colicky mess of a baby and she doesn’t want people to judge her for him screaming. Multiple reasons why you could not see him on that photo.
It’s not about her being royal anyway, it’s about if you judge her for it, you judge the rest of us and that’s not ok. You are not perfect.

We don't know that he wasn't there, he could have been napping, being kept out of the sun. Those photos may only cover a small window of time.

People are always so resentful of others having help with their children.

What a judgey thread.

Mine used to stay the night with my parents from 2 weeks old. Got judged all the time. To my face. At 4 months old & every year thereafter dh & I went away for 10 days. Dh & I go on family holidays & holidays with our friends & the 2 of us. Our dcs have turned out to be well adjusted.

I love my dcs but I didn’t need to be glued to them when I had extremely competent parents!

Kate & William do not look like cold parents - they look like fine to me.

I thought those photos and thought how utterly idyllic they were; kids in lovely cool, relaxed clothes with no socks running about or playing with their super-relaxed looking mummies (including Autumn in their too).

At no time did I think; fucking hell she’s left no.3 indoors uncared for again, why didn’t she pack the baby bivvy in the Landy and erect a shady gazebo and incidentally why weren’t the kids harnessed to the Palace wall to stop them plunging to their deaths on Saturday (different thread, but fgs).

I understand there are folk intrinsically opposed to a Royal Family. That is an opinion you’re at your liberty to hold. But this persistent finding fault and conjecture based on snap shots is just reaching dizzy heights of silliness.

While I’m at it, this whole “it’s not mean, they don’t know or care about you” is also beyond tedious.

Of course they don’t “know” me. I’m one of 60+ million people in the Uk alone with no one rushing to take my picture and fill column inches singling me out.

I sometimes wonder if anybody ever turns down an opportunity to attend an event where Royalty will be present? Even Left wing politicians always look thrilled to meet HM. Perhaps theyre just great actors,

They're with their Nanny. Not like she's left them with Carol up the road for a day! That's their way of life. She doesn't have a choice, it's her job to make public appearances and they are quite private when it comes to the kids when they are babies so she probably doesn't want to parade him round. I think judging by how shattered she looks these days she's probably quite hands on the rest of the time. My baby is a week younger than louis and I personally wouldnt leave him that long however if i had a trusted nanny and it was for work I might not have a choice.