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To wonder who the fuck still likes Morrissey?

79 replies

dangermouseisace · 07/06/2018 16:38

I was a Smiths fan. I was a Morrissey fan. I loved the music and the lyrics. Then he got a bit ‘embarrassing Uncle with questionable views but who you still feel an affection for’ in the 90’s. But now he’s just a racist twunt. See here AIBU to wonder who buys his records these days? Surely nearly all his original fan base will have had enough by now? Do any mumsnetters still listen to him?

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Justanotherlurker · 07/06/2018 17:43

I love his music, and The Smiths will always be legendary and go down in history as a great band, he can never tarnish that part.

But he has always been an contrian insufferable prick, it's riddled in the lyrics of his music dating back to the Smiths.

I think he just picks random political extremes out of a hat then bases his entire worldview around them

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey#Views_on_political_leaders

Just don't give him any more money.

Justanotherlurker · 07/06/2018 17:46

There is a fabulous thread on twitter about Morrissey now being gammon

I don't frequent twitter much but I saw that thread. Finally seeing someone actually use 'gammon' like that is amazing. I haven't cringed that hard in a long while.

Although "This charming ham", did raise a wry smile I admit.

Mousefunky · 07/06/2018 17:47

I love his music, always have done and I won’t change that but I despise him as a person. He is an absolute twat and not even in a loveable way.

Merrylegs · 07/06/2018 17:56

Oh god. He really is Bigmouth lately. Except I think he isn't 'only joking'.

He disappoints me beyond measure.

However Johnny is valiantly re-hashing The Smiths back catalogue with his new stuff

This is Bigmouth xThere is a Light. Plus he plays loads of Smiths stuff at his gigs. Which is more than Moz does these days.

DeepFatFriar · 07/06/2018 18:00

Are you not ablw to separate the musician from the man?

Merrylegs · 07/06/2018 18:08

I don't know.

Because if you were a buck-toothed girl from Luxemburg and you had Keates and Yates on your side and you hung around at the Cemetry Gates and dreamt that Last night Somebody Loved you and wondered why you smiled at people who you'd much rather KICK IN THE EYE. And if there was a club you'd like to go and then you'd go home on your own and you want to die......

And all the while you were in the company of someone who absolutley seemed to Get It and AND THEN HE PONCES ABOUT SAYING THE MAYOR OF LONDON SPEAKS FUNNY. And more reallyvile things.

Well. You'd feel a little disappointed. Wouldn't you?

NotARegularPenguin · 07/06/2018 18:17

Johnny Marr. Grin

He just pretends he doesn’t!

A1hulahoop · 07/06/2018 18:26

What happened to him? Was he not a racist in the 90's?

NotARegularPenguin · 07/06/2018 18:27

I think he was always a racist.

Social media and the internet just gives these idiots more of a platform and therefore more chance of shooting themselves in the foot. Bit like Roseanne.

Justanotherlurker · 07/06/2018 18:28

Oh god. He really is Bigmouth lately. Except I think he isn't 'only joking'.

I do think he is kind of trolling a lot of people to be honest, he is showing the fickle nature of politics those who love his music are not necessarily left wing as music and taste is not inherent like that etc.

But when he ripped into Thatcher, Reagan, Bush, Trump and Cameron and backed the likes of Corbyn and Clinton he was lauded as being nuanced in political thinking.

Now he is an older contrian git and taking potshots at the general "left" he is now just considered racist and his music is somehow tainted.

He has always been a twat, but I think he is intentionally putting a lot of his "woolly liberal" fans in a position that will make sure he goes down in history, he has always been anti establishment from day one.

Sorry for the non coherent rant

Dionysus78 · 07/06/2018 18:36

"Everyone gets over their Morrissey phase. Except Morrissey." - Sean Hughes.

Justanotherlurker · 07/06/2018 18:39

I think he was always a racist.

This is the type of response that he is expecting and showing how uniformed and tribalistic political discussion has become.

jaimebravo · 07/06/2018 18:41

Morrissey should only be allowed open his mouth to sing.
I love his stuff from You are the quarry going back to the Smiths, nothing recent, that's fairly shite.
He has gotten so bad now musically as well as personally that I don't even admit to anyone in public that i like himHmm

GerdaLovesLili · 07/06/2018 18:43

I'm amazed that anyone ever liked the whiny self-indulgent wank-puffin.

50shadesofgreyismylaundry · 07/06/2018 18:44

Sean Hughes, RIP. He was a lovely bloke.

GerdaLovesLili · 07/06/2018 18:47

50shadesofgreyismylaundry: Sean Hughes, RIP. He was a lovely bloke.

I found a little red telephone in my loft the other day, and then was overwhelmed with sadness because it reminded me that Sean Hughs had died. Sad

WatermelonGlitter · 07/06/2018 18:49

I still love his music. Genius lyrics. Nobody, but nobody is above being a twunt in some departnent, however well they hide it.

Merrylegs · 07/06/2018 18:50

Yes Justanother, I agree.

And I do think he started off as thinking he was being a bit 'droll' and he has always been VERY pleased with himself, and I do think he is being arch and trollery.

BUT I also think that he is OBVIOUSLY racist now with no nuance. His rant against Sadiq Khan's accent is a case in point.

His joking isn't funny anymore. (boom tish)

Merrylegs · 07/06/2018 18:51
Grin
RedHelenB · 07/06/2018 18:53

He was never left wing was he?

Mrsramsayscat · 07/06/2018 18:56

I used to like his music (and only his music) , but after this I'll never pay another penny into his coffers.

Justanotherlurker · 07/06/2018 19:07

I'm amazed that anyone ever liked the whiny self-indulgent wank-puffin.

I think the majority of his fans can separate his contrarian batshittery political views and artistic merit throughout his career.

If anything, he is poking a hole into the ideological puritism that is becoming mainstream, many of the people unironically calling him Gammon on twitter had reposted his rants about trump just a couple of years ago.

If anything it shows the current shit show of political discussion, the fact he has always been a fuckwit is lost on those who are saying they will never listen to The Smiths again.

Its quite funny

FellOutOfBed2wice · 07/06/2018 19:10

Pretty sure he is trolling us all tbh and take it all with a pinch of salt. The best thing to do is love the music, roll your eyes at the nonsense and have a sense of humour about Moz and his ridiculousness.

Fightthebear · 07/06/2018 19:13

There’s a difference between ranting about a politician and spouting racist or anti immigrant crap.

Merrylegs · 07/06/2018 19:17

He is.

He giveth with one hand...

“I’m just me,” he said, “I refuse to eat anything that had a mother, that's obvious.”

Grin

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/morrissey-vegans-superior-diet-bread-pasta-nuts-carbs-a8387781.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1528379737

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