About kids stil 'playing out' at this time?

[VelvetSpoon]

My neighbours kids (ages 2-10) are outside screaming shouting and generally making a racket. They've been out there since I got home at 6. If I'm lucky they might go in around 8. Though at weekends it's not uncommon for them to be out even later.

I cannot relax with the windows open as the noise they make is deafening. I've got the tv volume up high because at a normal volume I can't hear them.

AIBU to think primary age (and younger) kids should be indoors by now?! I know mine would have been. And as a child I was only allowed out until 6ish then it was indoors for dinner and bath. Am I hopelessly out of touch or are my neighbours a pita? (The parents sit indoors the whole time with the door shut btw- so they don't have to suffer the noise! and usually only come out to call the kids in at 8).

I'm just jealous that everyone is enjoying nicer weather than we are. It has been cloudy and 15 degrees here today

Ah right, just seen your update. The issue is that you don't get on with the neighbours, if you did it probably wouldn't bother you

You sound like a right misery.

They use your driveway as a play area?! Isn't that trespass?

Pp says it's part of living in a community. Teaching your DC respect for others is part of living in a community and that means limits on garden noise.

Sod it, op, get some mates round, have loud drunk sweary chat in the garden. It's summer. Fill up the margueritas and chat away.

Mine has just come in but I wouldn’t have called her in later.
Winters are so oppressive that I get a little liberal in the summer especially when the weather is as tremendous as it’s been lately.
YABU

During the week my ds 6 ( almost 7 ) comes in at 7pm for his shower and supper and gives him a chance to chill for an hour before bed at 8pm.

The weekend however hes allowed out later depending on weather and whether his friends are still out

Some children can't play without screaming/shrieking/roaring and their parents have never taught them to keep it down. There's a group of kids that play outside my house - I can hear them over my headphones!

Normal play noises are fine but someone literally running around screaming loudly on and on isn't fair. I feel your pain, OP!

Op: AIBU?
Pps: Yes.
Op: No I'm not!

Why did you post on here? You seem to expect sympathy and now you’re getting stroppy because we’ve mostly said YABU.

Ok so those of you who think kids playing out until whenever is fine, does the noise that you experience mean you have to turn up the tv or radio to a very high volume for the kid noise not to be intrusive? Because that is what I have to do. Even with the windows shut I can still hear them although I don't need to turn the tv up as much.

They're still outside. Though at least the incessant shrieking has stopped, they're now just banging the ball against my fence.

Thing is, I bet if I went out now with a lawnmower or similar, people would say I was BU, anti-social etc. But kids can be out until any time...!

It’s healthy for kids to be outside in the fresh air. Instead of cooped up indoors all evening.

I think bairns out at this time is fine, as long as they and their parents have consideration for the neighbours. Which doesn’t sound like your situation OP, I’m not sure why you’ve had such a flaming on here tbh.

In summer holidays/weekends ours are out until 8.30 sometimes 9. However, after 6pm I’d expect them to keep the noise down somewhat, so no hollering or screaming. Talking, playing, laughing = fine
Kids being papped outside and the parents can’t be arsed = not fine.

YANBU OP, no idea why so many think you are!

I think most people have been lucky and only heard children playing 'nicely'. So laughing, bit of yelling, and some squealing.

The kids in my area are all decent kids but in a group they get wound up to 1000 and are just WILD. Not being bad or anything but just doing everything as big and as loud as they can. The noise leaves you twitchy for ages afterwards!

We've had an overly long winter and months of shit weather, I'm glad my kids can finally play out.
You do seem to have other issues with your neighbour's op, I suspect if you got on with them you wouldn't be posting.

To be honest op, you are not going to win this one. Can you not just buy some headphones for the tv? For all you know your neighbors are moaning about the “deaf neighbor with the noisy telly”

YABU to think primary aged children should all be indoors by 19.47. Fuck that right off. It isn't late.

YANBU to be annoyed they're making so much noise you can't hear your TV at normal level, or presumably conduct a conversation. They can play out without screeching constantly.

YABU and as said upthread I think you are more upset because you're on bad terms with your neighbours.

The kids are aged 2 - 10 that's a big range so the littlest one should be in by 8 at the latest but a 10 year-old is fine to be out playing football in their garden on a lovely evening. The weather is so shit in this country and kids are so couped up it's unreasonable to mind them playing out while they can.

People are very intolerant of kids in this country

It's the longest day in about two weeks, so the nights will start to get shorter. I think it's good to see kids outside in this digital age.

However! Mine were never allowed to
Scream and shout in the garden, normal playing noises. They need to be taught this and to think of other people nearby.

yabu, perfectly normal time for kids to be out.

I grew up on a social housing estate. I do remember some poor behaviour, but I don't remember other kids being allowed to make this kind of racket at this time of night. I didn't allow my own children to be a nuisance and none of my friends with kids would have. Maybe the odd day if it was a party there might be some noise but generally we'd have some consideration for others.

Visitors to my home when the kids are all outside do comment on the noise and how bad it is. However the parents next door and the parents of the other kids present clearly think it's fine. It's so different to my own experience I am trying to see, as per my OP, if things have changed and this is just 'how it is'.

And I can assure you the noise has been a nuisance for years. I was completely ambivalent to the parents until the last year or so when they had a tantrum about me telling their kids to get off my drive and then not fixing my fence in 24 hours.

My six year old has just come in. There arent many days in the year when they can play out late.
YABU

For a start you need to sort out the football on the fence malarkey.
That's out of order.
I do think bairns should play out on an evening but their parents should make sure they play quietly after 7pm.
Winding gently down to bedtime, quiet time in the house... getting on Mum and Dad's nerves instead of every fucker else's.

Quiet.
QUIET.
QUIET!

We don't want to hear your fucking kids, we want to hear the birds/the telly/the radio.

I actually agree with you, not that there's anything you can do and even I would admit to being a grump for thinking like it. My DD is in bed at 6 and it'd piss me right off when the neighbours kids were storming up and down the pavement in their scooters, screaming and shouting till 830/9pm come rain or shine. It would disturb her despite my best efforts so naturally it got my back up. Having said that, I wouldn't have minded had they been in their own garden, not the street. We always had to stay in once called in for dinner.

I think some noise is to be expected when children play out, but what you describe does sound OTT. Children absolutely should play out in lovely weather like this, but parents should also teach them to be considerate. However, if what you want is silence (your use of 'playing quietly' does raise some red flags for me) then you are BU.

So I am on the fence. But not kicking footballs against it.

My 10 yr old is still out -on the street, but they're quiet. Skateboarding.

A ball banging of my fence would annoy me as well.