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The slog of this authoritarian shitshow is grinding us all down. My inspiration has gone into hiding with Melania. Knock yourselves out! (Trump cont.)

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boatyardblues · 05/06/2018 21:57

Does what it says on the tin. 🤷‍♂️

Here’s the last thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3258057-I-Spy-with-My-Little-Eye-Something-Beginning-with-T-Traitorous-Treasonweasels-in-Trumptown-Trump-contd

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ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 09:06

Perking, I was making a guess (extremely educated imvho, Wink ) that it was Miller, but he has that 'air' about him (well more of a stench).

PerkingFaintly · 13/06/2018 09:13

I wouldn't bet against you, ohmymimi Grin

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 09:14

'Does Stephen Miller have any friends? An investigation'
theoutline.com/post/3089/does-stephen-miller-have-friends?zd=1&zi=ybaehefy

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 09:34

O'Donnell was v. good yesterday. The Nic. Kristof section about the reality of NoKo life for it's people (at 6.25 mins in) is a stark reminder not just of the cruel emptiness of T.'s words, but the risk some N. Koreans will go through to get news from outside, only to hear those words. (Not a great fan of Kristof, but in this case he knows his subject)

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 10:50

Those italised words do not appear in the summit statement.

'Indeed, the interview was effectively a formality in a broadcast front-loaded with Hannity’s perspective, in which the phrase “complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization” was repeated aloud multiple times before being flashed onscreen.'
variety.com/2018/tv/columns/donald-trump-sean-hannity-north-korea-1202844057/

'Sean Hannity EVISCERATES Sean Hannity '
mobile.twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1006701349910675457

Gumpendorf · 13/06/2018 11:04

Back on US soil: Republican voters embrace Trump style candidates.

www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/us/politics/primary-south-carolina-virginia-nevada.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 12:00

'From the post summit news conf., the words in italics reveal his true self and are worth remembering. If nothing more is achieved, or things go belly up, he will not own it, and has admitted that.

"Honestly, I think he's going to do these things," Trump said. "I may be wrong, I mean I may stand before you in six months and say, 'Hey, I was wrong.' I don't know that I'll ever admit that, but I'll find some kind of an excuse. "

Perihelion · 13/06/2018 12:30

Grumpendorf that Destiny propaganda video is so odd.
Watched it last night and have just realised that it reminds me of something the contestants on the Apprentice would create.

lionheart · 13/06/2018 12:40

Ouch WP

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 13:23

George Mitchell has just given a reminder of what giving security guarantees to Noko could mean in reality (on New Day, CNN). Coming to their aid, if attacked, coming to their aid if there is a popular revolt.
Plus:
Oh the irony - USA, Mexico and Canada's joint bid wins right host World Cup 2026.

Lweji · 13/06/2018 13:28

The comments on that Hannity tweet. Grin

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 13:35

The N. America bid is called 'United 2026' Hmm. Oh yes, and of course El Presidente made threats of retaliation to countries not supporting the bid.

Lweji · 13/06/2018 16:11

Colbert offers an alternative to the Destiny video.

"Trump put 5 different suns in there, and, no surprise, none of them were Eric."

lionheart · 13/06/2018 17:17

F*cked up version of the 'special relationship'.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/steve-king-white-nationalist-neo-nazi-retweet_us_5b200eaee4b0adfb826e8e40

lionheart · 13/06/2018 17:25

This is astounding (but not Trumpy except for those Mafia connections of his).

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/13/italian-mp-piera-aiello-mafia-threat-reveals-her-face-for-first-time

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 17:44

'Ex-Trump lawyer Cohen likely to cooperate as his attorneys leave case'
abcnews.go.com/amp/US/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-cooperate-attorneys-leave-case/story?id=55861988&__twitter_impression=true

AcrossthePond55 · 13/06/2018 18:08

From ABC News to God's ear mimi!!

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 18:47

Looks like He might need to switch his hearing aid on, Across Smile
'Source close to Michael Cohen: He expects to be arrested at any moment. His lawyers got a call from SDNY that they're preparing paperwork. He lined up an atty more suited to defend him & hasn’t flipped yet, “He’s sending up a smoke signal to Trump: I need help.” per @KatyTurNBC'
mobile.twitter.com/vanityman/status/1006942171499356160

lionheart · 13/06/2018 18:48

Aah. 150.

www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/robert-mueller-files-request-for-150-blank-subpoenas-in-paul-manafort-case

'The two-page filing reveals little, but says that that each subpoena recipient must appear in the Alexandria, Va., courthouse on July 25 to testify in the case.'

lionheart · 13/06/2018 18:56

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THREAD: What does the potential cooperation of Michael Cohen mean for the Mueller investigation?

1/ Today @abcnews reported that Michael Cohen is likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in Manhattan. He has reportedly fired his defense attorneys.

2/ It’s not surprising that Cohen is moving towards cooperation, if the @abcnews reports are correct. When the FBI executes a search warrant at your home and office, you’re in trouble. The judge in the Stormy Daniels case concluded Cohen is likely to be charged, and he’s right.

3/ Although Cohen is cooperating with federal prosecutors in Manhattan (not Mueller’s team), cooperation deals typically require the cooperator to provide all information about any criminal activity he knows about. Prosecutors then share that info with other jurisdictions.

4/ Assuming that Cohen has information that will be useful to law enforcement—information that will lead to charges against others—he will get a deal. But one unusual complication is that Cohen is an attorney and some information he has may be about former clients.

5/ There are ample examples of attorneys who are prosecuted—I tried and convicted one—but when they cooperate, everyone involved needs to make sure attorney-client privilege is respected.

6/ Most conversations involving criminal activity likely won’t be privileged because they don’t involve legal advice. Only conversations about legal advice are privileged. A conversation about legal advice isn’t privileged if the advice is used to further the crime.

7/ That last sentence is called the “crime/fraud” exception to attorney-client privilege. It’s more limited than some commentators suggest, but combined with the fact that most criminal conversations aren’t about legal advice, likely few of Cohen’s conversations were privileged.

8/ It’s also worth noting that federal prosecutors allege that Cohen didn’t practice law much, and thus far the documents they seized are consistent with that allegation. The retired judge reviewing the Cohen documents found that less than 1/10th of one percent were privileged.

9/ So if Cohen cooperates, he will have to tell almost all of what he knows about criminal activity to federal prosecutors, who can share that info with Mueller, other federal prosecutors, and state prosecutors.

10/ Trump could derail all of this with a pardon of Cohen. His recent talk of pardons appears to be an attempt to reduce the political damage of giving pardons. If Trump pardoned Cohen for federal crimes, state prosecutors would have to use the evidence gathered by the FBI.

11/ That could result in a cooperation deal for state, not federal authorities. By moving towards cooperation now, Cohen is signaling that he doesn’t believe he will receive a pardon—or he’s trying to get one sooner rather than later.

12/ Regardless of how it plays out, Cohen’s cooperation is a blow to the Trump team and could strengthen the case Mueller is building. How much it helps Mueller depends on what Cohen knows and how forthcoming he is.

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 19:17

lawandcrime.com/high-profile/heres-why-paul-manafort-probably-cant-flip-on-trump/

On the other hand, it has been surmised that Manafort is a Russian asset, so has more reason to fear for his wellbeing from Putin than anything Mueller might pile on him.

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 19:29

'Gee what a surprise. A January piece in the Wall Street Journal - five months ago - reported that Trump had been told by a key advisor to drop joint military exercises with South Korea.

The advisor? Vladimir Putin. Trump knifed an ally to aid an enemy on the advice of Russia.'
mobile.twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1006704425690419200

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 19:30

'I LOVE that trump cultists are saying it is fake news that the WSJ reported five months ago that Putin advised Trump to drop military exercises with South Korea. It was reported - in a Murdoch paper.'
mobile.twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1006705646706798593

ohmymimi · 13/06/2018 19:36

'Chinese Foreign Ministry announced that Trump would suspend US war games with South Korea before Trump announced it himself at the press briefing. That suggests Kim’s people were on the phone to Beijing straight after the meeting cos they recognized how big a concession it was.'
mobile.twitter.com/pdanahar/status/1006571445013577728

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