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64 replies

allofus · 01/06/2018 19:22

Evening Mn, Nc for a good reason.

I've just seen my ndn (2 doors down) on a news website at the free tommy Robinson March in Leeds. I feel sick, he's been nothing but polite whenever we have bumped into each other but my concern is this, my children are of mixed heritage, their dad is Asian. He employs said ndn. Wtf! Wwyd if you were in my position.

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allofus · 01/06/2018 19:29

Bump

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SasBel · 01/06/2018 19:31

Nothing, if he choses to be an arse in his own time that’s up to him, if it leaches into your life then fire him...

brummiesue · 01/06/2018 19:32

Absolutely nothing, as long as he is polite and respectful to you and your family its absolutely none of your business.

user1471517900 · 01/06/2018 19:32

You should immediately burn down his house OP.

Or do nothing as this really isn't much of a problem. While you may disagree with Tommy Robinson, this neighbour has done nothing to hurt you in any way.

Kursk · 01/06/2018 19:33

Nothing, it’s his personal life.

EllenJanethickerknickers · 01/06/2018 19:35

If a Tory boss sacked an otherwise good employee because of his Marxist political views, I'd be outraged. Unfortunately I think you should do nothing unless it impacts on his ability to do the job or unless he's openly racist while at work.

RunMummyRun68 · 01/06/2018 19:35

I agree... do nothing! It's his life

ArsenalsPlayingAtHome · 01/06/2018 19:35

I disagree.

Do you feel like you can confront him, bring it up in passing?

What does your DH say about it? I would feel uncomfortable, disturbed even.

Troubledwater · 01/06/2018 19:35

Does their dad/employer know?

allofus · 01/06/2018 19:36

Thanks for knocking some sense into me, I panicked for a moment.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 01/06/2018 19:37

Wether you like it or not op.
This bloke Is entitled to his beliefs.
Your husband employs him.
He doesn't owen him.
I'd say nothing

Troubledwater · 01/06/2018 19:37

“It’s his life”

So we’re no longer calling out racists? Ok.

allofus · 01/06/2018 19:40

Their dad doesn't know, I may bring it up when he picks up the kids tomorrow morning.

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Listener73 · 01/06/2018 19:41

I would feel uncomfortable with this as well... BUT, as everyone else has said, unless he does or says something that is offensive or inappropriate where you can challenge him on his views you just need to sit tight.

Troubledwater · 01/06/2018 19:45

I’m guessing the majority of the responses above are from White British posters and therefore the ndn views will have no impact on their lives whatsoever, maybe they even agree with his views Hmm

But for the father of OPs children/said persons employer and as the mother of mixed race children, do you really think they should just ignore? This person is supporting hate and hate crimes that is directed towards them.

Wtf.

allofus · 01/06/2018 19:50

He's always said hello to me and my kids when passing, his gf not so much but that's fine ( maybe this wouldn't be the case if he wasn't employed by exp) we live in a majority white area so don't know how he is with anybody else.
I'm just shocked as I would never have guessed his political views. He looks very aggressive the pic, no doubt that it is him.

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MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 01/06/2018 19:51

Who is Tommy Robinson?

Caribou58 · 01/06/2018 19:53

I've already discovered since the latest 'Robinson' (for that is not actually his name, of course) issue has hit the press that even some people I know who have what I'd call 'good politics' don't understand what has happened here. A Facebook friend (with whom I used to work) who is anti-racist but lives abroad actually re-posted an article banging on about 'freedom of speech' and trying to suggest he'd been shut up purely because the case in question involved Muslims.

When I explained the issues (contempt of court, jeopardising the entire trial, etc) and gave her some links to what this individual tends to get up to, she was horrified.

Your neighbour might just be ill-informed.

Knittedfairies · 01/06/2018 19:54

I wouldn’t even mention it to your ex; unless his political views impact his work, there’s nothing he can do anyway.

Gizlotsmum · 01/06/2018 19:55

Tricky. I would raise it with the children’s dad, does he have a contract? It’s on his own time and he is pleasant enough to you which makes it hard to match with him being on the March.

Listener73 · 01/06/2018 19:56

Troubledwater I don't think it is about the neighbours views not impacting on lives. I think all racist voices given a platform in society impact on all lives regardless of race or ethnicity.

As far as we can tell from the ops message the neighbour hasn't done anything that we know of that is illegal. If he makes racist comments at home or in the workplace then absolutely action should be taken and the neighbour should be challenged.

What do you feel the right thing to do would be?

WeirdCatLady · 01/06/2018 19:59

What would you hope to achieve by telling his employer? I’m assuming from your post that you’d like to see him get sacked?

TheFirstMrsOsmond · 01/06/2018 19:59

My Dh is Chinese so our 3 children are mixed race. Years ago I employed a cleaner who turned out to be horribly racist which became evident gradually over the months as I got to know her. She would make dreadful remarks about black people, as if she had not noticed that 80% of my family were non-white. When I eventually could take it no longer and challenged her, she claimed "oh I don't mean your family, they're all OK" and couldn't understand why I found her remarks so offensive, because as she saw it, "Chinese" isn't "black". Of course I stopped employing her.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/06/2018 20:04

He appeared to be defending vulnerable girls. I can imagine a lot of people unless they know the backstory could be outraged. I would be wary of your neighbour for sure. As for what to do, idk if he’s otherwise respectful, I don’t think there’s any law against having these political views.

I’m not trying to doubt you. However, it could be someone else, who looks a lot like him. My ndn has a twin sister for example. And I’ve just found out. It was confusing when I said hello to her the one time when she barely answered and then saw her again only to not be acknowledged.

Troubledwater · 01/06/2018 20:07

Listener73, people keeping quiet and letting people with these views continue with their lives as normal is the reason why so many people have these disgusting views. THESE DISGUSTING VIEWS DONT AFFECT THEIR LIVES IN ANY WAY AND THIS IS WHY THEY CONTINUE. If people got called out on/challenged directly and realised they may lose their employment and respect within communities (especially predominately white ones) then many may be shocked to their senses and realise how idiotic they really are. We cannot just ignore these people because they sometimes “act respectful” (usually when they are relying on wages from their ethnic minority employer!!)

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