To ask what age you'd allow your child to listen to explicit music?

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DS often plays "Rockstar" which is an example... I actually listened to the lyrics and was horrified. I said he can't have that version playing.

What age would you allow it? Thanks.

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How old is he?

It's fine. You can't shelter a child from everything and that song is pretty minor on the scale of things they will come across as they grow up.

I don't mind from any age

I'm assuming Post Malone and not nickleback.

Depends on what the explicitness is about. I would not want music promoting misogynism or racism in my house at any time. But if we just mean sex, I am probably quite lax there. Which is just as well as I myself was an avid opera fan from quite an early age. And some of those libretti are surprisingly outspoken.

Depends which 'Rockstar' you mean. If it's Nickelback I don't think I'd bother with an age limit, if it's Post Malone maybe be a bit more strict but your son's probably heard all the words before and you can't shelter him forever.

I thought you meant Nickleback and thought you were being very unreasonable Just looked up the Post Malone lyrics. I'd probably let a teen listen to it but I'm quite relaxed about this stuff, as long as they're not repeating the words to anyone they shouldn't be.

All my younger dc have had Eminem on from being young as older ones have always listened to him. They are just swear words and they know not for everyday usage!!

I'm afraid you can't shield them from this kind of music - best to just discuss with your child that some lyrics are offensive and everyone has dumbed down and this is now the norm.

Post Malone. He's 10.

I often have music with occasional swearing in playing. I don’t think it’s too much of an issue tbh. If it was a song about violence etc I would have stricter limits

some lyrics are offensive and everyone has dumbed down and this is now the norm.

Has everyone dumbed down? I used to listen to music with 'offensive' lyrics 20 years ago. It's just music- was the music of the 70s and 80s more intellectual?

Just because things change doesn't make it worse. It's just different.

any age because I was obsessed with music as a child (still am to an extent) and listened to all sorts. The only thing my parents picked up on was the Eminem album because it was on the news.... So they took that off me and hid it.
I just took it out of the case and recorded it onto cassette tape whilst they were in bed and then put the cd back.

You cant stop kids from listening to things I dont think... certainly not by age 10.. they will find a way and all you do by banning it is make it extra special and interesting to them.
Its not like its porn or extreme cinema... its just some rude words that wont even make that much sense to him until hes older.
Unlike with film/video games you dont get the whole context so its not being processed in the same way... it cant be understood as easily unless you are already old enough to understand it.

Ive not grown up to be some sort of tearaway because I listened to Eminem and Marilyn Manson when I was 10.

A bit of swearing wouldn’t bother me too much but I’d not let him listen to anything misogynistic or with the N word in. Ds is 11. We use Apple Music and we’ve set up restrictions on his phone so it doesn’t let him listen to anything explicit anyway.

Why has rappers singing (in the loosest term) about bitches and pussies and drugs and guns become acceptable? Frankie Goes To Hollywood's Relax was banned on Radio One, but perhaps that was before your time?

lifebeginsatgin but before that there was Black Sabbath and Metallica, Iron Maiden...

and did you not see that thread recently about misogynistic music? There were plenty of entries from as far back as the 50s that are truly awful.

@LifeBeginsAtGin funny thing is only because Relax was banned did lots of teens work out what it meant.

OP when you can explain to him and he understands why the lyrics of the song contain unacceptable language that shouldn't be used in normal every day conversation. Also why he shouldn't sing/rap to apart from in his room. You really need to get to him before he goes to secondary school.

The chorus of the song is "I've been fucking hoes and popping pillies" and he sings along to this. It seems really irresponsible to keep allowing it.

My DD1 was listening to Eminem at around age 10/11 complete with explicit lyrics. She has grown into a lovely responsible young woman now age 25. He will be fine OP!

I’d not be happy with my 10 yr old singing about “fucking hoes”! Lyrics about sex are inevitable but not calling women hoes or similar.

Not at 10, no. Too young to understand what he is singing. My nearly 14yr old I wouldn't mind because she and I would talk about it and she'd know not to repeat them in public because of their meaning.

I have had a number of conversations with my two (DS is 12) about abusive language and why I don't want them using it generally. I've said that swearing with their friends is kind of what teens do, but not in front of me or their grandparents, or out in public. It's just unnecessary and does not add to the conversation.

I would steer my dc away from misogynistic shite. Swearing is one thing, but I don't want my kids absorbing damaging messages and thinking it's normal. As I've gotten older, I've also become more uncomfortable with some pop videos - I don't want my dc seeing half naked women gyrating around some fully dressed bloke and thinking that it's a woman's role to entertain him!

I didn't encourage this type of music but I agree with a pp above some classical songs and opera have lyrics that aren't suitable for children.
it might not be motherfucker shakin your arse, or smack my bitch up, but still unsuitable.

My granddaughter, then aged 9, told me not to listen to some music her mum was playing because, "It's got rude words in it, Grandma."