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To think the Irish Abortion Referendum outcome will be a close call?

334 replies

Jellyfish456 · 24/05/2018 20:52

Polling day is within touching distance and from what I’ve seen on my social media channels, the vast majority seem to be swaying towards voting to Repeal. Do we think this is a true reflection of the majority or are the No side just less likely to be vocal on their social media channels? Whatever the outcome, I think it will be close.

What are everyone else’s thoughts?

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birdonawire1 · 25/05/2018 10:37

I think it will be the older more conservative religious members of the community who will sway the vote towards keeping the status quo. Much like Brexit

MysweetAudrina · 25/05/2018 10:38

It's a referendum, everyone has to be given the opportunity to vote. We live in a democracy. You can't expel a whole sex from voting based on their gender. Should only gay people have been allowed to vote in the marriage equality referendum? My dh and son will vote yes. My ds is anti abortion. He said he feels bad on a personal level voting yes and explained that he has been vegetarian since he was 11 and hates the thought of hurting an insect but that he wouldn't take away someone else's right to choose. We need men's votes and by sending out the message that they shouldn't vote we are running the risk that they won't and abstaining will support the status quo.We need men to support us.

PerkingFaintly · 25/05/2018 10:45

Thinking of you all today.

Inkspellme · 25/05/2018 10:48

By that same thinking surely only non heterosexual people should have voted in the same sex marriage referendum?

Juells · 25/05/2018 10:54

Haven't RTFT but I think it will be a No. The bombardment of posters on every pole everywhere is unbelievable, and honestly annoying. As I drove along a road near me a few days ago I saw two fucking old codgers with a ladder, putting up yet more No posters, if I hadn't been in a stream of traffic I'd have stopped and shrieked "Control freaks" at them. Someone told me 2,500 Americans flew in yesterday to pile on yet more pressure.

The Yes campaign has been pathetic. They wouldn't accept donations from outside the country, presumably so that nobody could say the result was influenced from abroad, but the result is that the No campaign has been able to afford slick advertising, and the Yes campaign has just a few posters dotted here and there, with just text on.

Juells · 25/05/2018 11:04

@ForgivenessIsDivine

I hope that people realise that repealing the 8th ammendment is required so that medical professionals can start to put the rights of a woman over her own body above that of her unborn child.

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sashh · 25/05/2018 11:05

The Yes campaign has been pathetic. They wouldn't accept donations from outside the country, presumably so that nobody could say the result was influenced from abroad, but the result is that the No campaign has been able to afford slick advertising, and the Yes campaign has just a few posters dotted here and there, with just text on.

What about 'abroad for yes? The yes campaign couldn't take money from foreign donations, so abroad for yes has been putting funders and voters together to get people home to vote.

People who can vote are flying in from all over, the pictures at airports and on planes are so uplifting.

MiggeldyHiggins · 25/05/2018 11:12

The Yes campaign has been pathetic. They wouldn't accept donations from outside the country, presumably so that nobody could say the result was influenced from abroad, but the result is that the No campaign has been able to afford slick advertising, and the Yes campaign has just a few posters dotted here and there, with just text on

Pathetic? Go fuck yourself. Thousands of passionate and dedicated people have spent months working fucking hard, how dare you call them pathetic?
And you must be blind, there are countless different YES posters from many many different sources, they are everywhere, and they don't just have text on.

Juells · 25/05/2018 11:18

And you must be blind, there are countless different YES posters from many many different sources, they are everywhere, and they don't just have text on.

I haven't seen even ONE that had anything but text on. All I've seen is posters about murdering babies, killing six month old babies, 1in5 babies killed in England, If you saw an abortion, on and on and on.

siwel123 · 25/05/2018 11:19

I think men should have the vote.
It's there constitution too right?

MiggeldyHiggins · 25/05/2018 11:27

and yet they are all over the country whether you have seen them or not. In live in ballygobackwards and we have at least 6 different types of yes posters, possibly more, multiples of each.

Apologise to the yes campaign.

AngeloMysterioso · 25/05/2018 11:30

I feel sad for all the women on here whose DHs are voting No. I honestly don't think I could stay married to a No voter.

Juells · 25/05/2018 11:35

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MiggeldyHiggins · 25/05/2018 11:41
Hmm
MiggeldyHiggins · 25/05/2018 11:43

Well get out and vote yes anyway, at least do something rather than slag off the people who actually got of their arse to do something.

OohMavis · 25/05/2018 11:44

I think it'll be a no.

Because they gave the vote to men, too. Why?

dustarr73 · 25/05/2018 11:44

We all thought same sex wouldnt get through and it did.We just have to hope for the same outcome this time.

Juells · 25/05/2018 11:50

Of course I'm voting Yes, so is everyone I know. I just can't see how it can be carried against the dreadful bombardment of the No posters.

I drove from Dublin to Waterford on Tuesday, No posters all the way. I'm in Dun Laoghaire, No posters everywhere. It's just horrible and upsetting.

www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b&biw=1366&bih=631&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=eugHW4r5O6Od6ATJrLKYCw&q=no+posters+everywhere+irish+referendum&oq=no+posters+everywhere+irish+referendum&gs_l=img.3...6346.11530.0.12221.19.17.1.0.0.0.297.2311.0j12j2.14.0....0...1c.1.64.img..4.0.0....0.IuShQ_Rp49I

RedPanda2 · 25/05/2018 11:56

Veep said it best - "If men could get pregnant you'd be able to get an abortion at an ATM"
hoping for yes. I think it'll be close though

Annasgirl · 25/05/2018 12:02

So nervous to-day. It's been a long campaign - I feel as if I've been fighting it my whole life, from little debates in school to marches through college to marches now and through door to door campaigns.
I am surprised at the number of middle aged women voting no, but equally heartened by the lovely older women (70+) and older men (70-90+) who have chatted to us, shared their stories and said they are yes and thanked us for doing this.
Those of us on the campaign acknowledge that we were not hard hitting but our aim was a respectful campaign and we depended on the compassion of Irish people. We will see if that was the right choice. Also, we will need to work with them after the vote if it is a yes to get the legislation passed whereas if they win they won't have to work with us.

ForgivenessIsDivine · 25/05/2018 12:04

The same-sex marriage vote benefited men.......

dustarr73 · 25/05/2018 12:14

The same-sex marriage vote benefited men.......

And woman as well.

aharddaysnight · 25/05/2018 12:29

Don't agree that only women should have been able to vote though, as I don't think abortion is a woman-only issue, even if each individual abortion is a woman's decision.

I am really hoping for the right result, but am not sure we will get it.

JaneJeffer · 25/05/2018 12:32

2,500 Americans flew in yesterday to pile on yet more pressure to quote The Field "Go home Yank". They should be sorting out their own country where there is another school shooting every month but they don't seem to care about that.

OohMavis · 25/05/2018 12:34

It's certainly not enough of a men's issue to allow them an equal vote on the matter, imo.

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