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I Spy with My Little Eye Something Beginning with T. - Traitorous Treasonweasels in Trumptown (Trump cont'd.)

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ohmymimi · 24/05/2018 11:18

All out effort to shore up the 'Spygate' false narrative today. I see the F and F interview is pre-recorded I wonder whyWink
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ohmymimi · 02/06/2018 21:29

Thanks Gump! These are interesting revelations.

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cozietoesie · 02/06/2018 21:31

You'll notice that Huckleberry was shading her response at the end?

lionheart · 02/06/2018 21:42

Loopholes, fortifications, laws where only 'norms' existed before.

The alt-right will not simply vanish but will morph into something else just as hideous, or attach itself to some other 'personality'.

What will be left of the GOP?

That's before you even get to the institutions that have been repeatedly maligned or undo the damage done through EAs, the tax reform, the environment, international relations and internal regulations.

Actually, this is just scratching the surface. Sad

cozietoesie · 02/06/2018 21:44

I still smell that Constitutional Convention a-coming. Wink

lionheart · 02/06/2018 21:45

As has been pointed out elsewhere--the letters go back to January.

Mueller was obviously not convinced--at least I don't think he shut up shop and went home.

Gumpendorf · 02/06/2018 21:56

I don't know whether this has been posted but an article on a constitutional convention. It is Mother Jones but I was still a tad surprised when I read it. It's hard to imagine the left prevailing at the moment.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/05/what-if-we-held-a-constitutional-convention-and-the-right-wingers-prevailed/

lionheart · 02/06/2018 21:58

It will be a good 'un (although I am a bit ambivalent about the idea of a Constitution in the first place). Smile

cozietoesie · 02/06/2018 21:59

I didn't realise that one had already been called for. Sad

cozietoesie · 02/06/2018 22:01

There will be a great deal of talk, Gump.

ohmymimi · 02/06/2018 22:08

From the T. lawyers/Mueller letter:

“We are reminded of our duty to protect the president and his office,” the lawyers wrote, making their case that Mr. Mueller has the information he needs from tens of thousands of pages of documents they provided and testimony by other witnesses, obviating the necessity for a presidential interview.'

Isn't the first sentence odd/inaccurate? It raises questions, surely?

  • These are T.'s personal lawyers, their duty is to him, not the office of president?

  • A lawyer's duty is to act in the best interests of the client, and this generally prevails, except where to do this would require the lawyer to break the law or participate in misleading the court. So is it a lawyer's duty to protect a client?

  • What if protecting T. is at odds with protecting the office?

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ohmymimi · 02/06/2018 22:24

Lawrence Tribe weighs in:

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lionheart · 02/06/2018 22:26

trump money

'Donald Trump’s Net Worth Has Fallen for the Second Year In a Row, Bloomberg Says.'

ohmymimi · 02/06/2018 22:40

Let's hope this new hoohaah doesn't distract the diligent Presidente from his extensive prep. for the KJU meetingSmile

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cozietoesie · 03/06/2018 00:46

Lordy but this is all a mess. June 14 or June 15 are the days I'll be particularly Alert. (I don't think Mr M will be able to ride herd on his team much beyond that.)

cozietoesie · 03/06/2018 00:46

alert

TheClaws · 03/06/2018 01:56

That letter is outrageous, but not unexpected.

cozietoesie · 03/06/2018 04:17

It's from January remember. Smile

cozietoesie · 03/06/2018 04:50

Try 2. Wink

lljkk · 03/06/2018 06:48

Trump dictated to his legal team what defence he wanted, and now DJT's lawyers leaked it so Trump can see from reaction that it's a pointless and useless defence, and legal team can move onto getting DJT to cooperate with a potentially valid defence strategy.

ohmymimi · 03/06/2018 07:34

'Giuliani was supposed to be at Camp David w Trump this weekend to strategize but tells me he decided not to go. He got time w Trump yesterday and talked to him this morning. Don Jr and Ivanka Trump are at Camp David and are part of weekend Giuliani was supposed to be there for.'
mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1003084572517650432

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ohmymimi · 03/06/2018 07:37

www.politico.com/interactives/2018/women-rule-candidate-tracker/

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ohmymimi · 03/06/2018 07:43

Philip Rucker
@PhilipRucker
"Speed dating": Critics worry Trump is already handing propaganda victories to North Korea, by @DavidNakamura
www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/speed-dating-critics-worry-trump-is-already-handing-propaganda-victories-to-north-korea/2018/06/02/802008dc-6684-11e8-99d2-0d678ec08c2f_story.html?__twitter_impression=true
mobile.twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/1003044513915592707

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ohmymimi · 03/06/2018 07:50

So that's why It's legal team leaked the letter, getting their 'case' out to Cult45 in case Mueller subpeona's their leader.

Tara Palmeri
@tarapalmeri
Giuliani confirmed the contents of the letter to Mueller obtained by the New York Times. He says it's still their legal strategy, telling me "If Mueller tries to subpoena us, we're going to court."

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