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I Spy with My Little Eye Something Beginning with T. - Traitorous Treasonweasels in Trumptown (Trump cont'd.)

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ohmymimi · 24/05/2018 11:18

All out effort to shore up the 'Spygate' false narrative today. I see the F and F interview is pre-recorded I wonder whyWink
Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3242915-We-re-all-going-on-a-WITCH-HUNT-We-re-not-scared-we-persist-Trump-cont?pg=39&order=

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ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 08:28

'But Bee shouldn’t have used the word in the first place—not because it’s inappropriate for her to use the word to describe another woman, or because there’s no excuse for using language equal in its harshness to the degree of her outrage, but because it was destined to obliterate whatever point she was trying to make and give rise to the kinds of false equivalencies that have been blooming like mold across conservative Twitter all day.'
slate.com/culture/2018/05/samantha-bees-ivanka-trump-slur-was-self-defeating.html

As a whole, this is a good, balanced piece. While I acknowledge the rationale of the above extract, I think:
a. she had no need to apologise. There was particular horror in that photo/sentiment, juxtaposed with IT's complicity in the cruel abuse of children;
b. (from the same article) 'But if you’re genuinely more exercised about a political appointee being criticized, in whatever terms, than about the families she’s apparently fine with seeing torn apart, then it’s time to rethink when and about what you give a feck.'

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TheClaws · 01/06/2018 08:47

Because of course he is. Where else would have him?

Dinesh D'Souza @DineshDSouza
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I’ll be on @foxandfriends tomorrow morning in the first TV interview following my pardon by President @realDonaldTrump. Tune into @foxnews at 6:30 AM ET!

TheClaws · 01/06/2018 08:53

Dedicated Trumpeters might swallow this absolute whopper. I can’t see how anyone else with a functioning brain cell would.

Fox News @FoxNews
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.@David_Bossie: "The Obama presidency is going to go down as one of the worst presidencies, next to Jimmy Carter's, in American history." #TheStory

Anniegetyourgun · 01/06/2018 09:19

Ha! No. No, it really isn't.

ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 09:22

Dinesh D'Souza Retweeted
MAGAPatriot
MAGAPatriot🇺🇸Steve
@RealMAGASteve
“KARMA IS A BITCH DEPT: @PreetBharara wanted to destroy a fellow Indian American to advance his career. Then he got fired & I got pardoned.” –Dinesh D’Souza

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Lweji · 01/06/2018 09:28

If karma is a bitch he should look over his shoulder the rest of his life.

Anyway, it looks like all that Mexico and Canada need to do is send a Kardashian to the WH. Sorted.

lionheart · 01/06/2018 09:31

The Slate is right I think.

Go high because it's the right thing to do but if that principle does not always hold, remember what happens when you don't.

ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 09:32

There is plenty of evidence for obstruction, but is that enough to bring T. down?:
theintercept.com/2018/05/31/trump-russia-mueller-investigation-obstruction-of-justice/

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ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 09:49

How to turn distopia into utopia? Interesting, and there is a good critique of the weaknesses of our democracies in this piece.

'The radical democracy of the future requires more than just elections. We need a legislature by lot'

'Today the American system of democracy exists in name more than in substance. The institutions continue to be wrapped in the symbols and ribboned in the ornaments of self-government. Yet the truth, widely known yet rarely acknowledged, is that the American political system is increasingly run not by the people, but by the rich. Plutocracy. Leading scholars of American politics Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page conclude their recent study with the observation that “the majority does not rule — at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose.” '

jacobinmag.com/2018/05/legislature-lot-electoral-democracy-real-utopias

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ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 09:50

dystopia

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ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 10:43

Guess who got the full WH treatment from Scumbucket?

Chelsea Clinton calls out Trump for ripping Samantha Bee but inviting singer who called Hillary “c-nt” to WH (link: hill.cm/l43grbM) hill.cm/l43grbM

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Lweji · 01/06/2018 10:50

I think it was Jim Acosta who asked Sarah Sanders: "Who has President Trump apologised to?"
This about Roseanne, and Sarah trying to deflect back.

edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/05/30/trump-roseanne-sanders-whb-apologies-jim-acosta-nr-bts.cnn

lionheart · 01/06/2018 12:02

Martha says she won't accept a Trump pardon.

I think she does not like the President. Grin

ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 12:02

Great piece on Maddow with Delegate Danica Roem, Virginia House of Del's., on the effectiveness of grassroots citizen activism, and how the change of R/D balance has enabled expansion of Medicaid. Heartening.

'What Virginia's Vote Means for the Future of Medicaid Expansion'
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/the-expanding-medicaid-expansion/561647/

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ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 12:06

She has company, lion, and good for her.

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ohmymimi · 01/06/2018 12:14

Scumbucket and the repugs hung out the shingle for Moore, not surprising someone as despicable as Larson would see it as an invitation.

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lionheart · 01/06/2018 12:21

Larson takes the Biscuit in this category (misogynistic amoral scumbags) and lord knows the competition is fierce.

lionheart · 01/06/2018 12:53

Long read.

datasociety.net/output/oxygen-of-amplification/

PerkingFaintly · 01/06/2018 13:11

Thanks for that article, lionheart. It looks good, and I'll work my way through it today.

BTW, sorry to ask but can anyone help me find that thread by MNHQ asking for our input about handling fake news and deliberate misinformation?

Or maybe it was asking what we'd like to see taught in schools about this?

[vague]

I haven't been able to find it via search.

lettuceWrap · 01/06/2018 13:26

FLOTUS Melania Trump hasn’t been seen in public for 22 days. No paparazzi shots, no comment from WH about the rumours surrounding her disappearance.

We were discussing this this morning and came to the conclusion that if she was ok (physically/ mentally), she could easily end the speculation without even speaking by being seen briefly getting out of/into a car.

My thoughts were, going but his documented previous spousal abuse - he’s beaten her very badly and she’s very ill and unable to appear in public My DH thinks he might have beaten or raped her and she’s now “recovered” enough to to refuse point blank to cooperate with the WH - and wants to damage Trump by making sure she stays out of sight.
There’s lots of hate for Melania on Twitter, she’s a gold digger so she deserves it etc- pretty vile IMO. Nobody deserves it.

lettuceWrap · 01/06/2018 13:27

*going by

Roussette · 01/06/2018 13:54

There was a statement from her private secretary or whatever she's called, before the Melania tweet, saying she was working on her campaign etc.

She IS a gold digger, she WAS at the forefront of the birther conspiracy, I don't like her because she has supported Trump BUT no one deserves DV if that's the case. If this is true, I would like to think she will make him pay by not co-operating any more. However, my sympathy is reserved for her son, poor little sod with a Dad like Trump

PerkingFaintly · 01/06/2018 13:55

I sincerely hope he hasn't laid a finger on her.

Wouldn't surprise me if she'd finally left him though. But for the time being that's all speculation.