To think that RF looked disinterested?

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When the couple were making their vows - heads firmly in programmes

I absolutely loved it and cannot believe some of the criticism on here. Queen is in her '90's for god's sake and probably really worried about DofE. Kate is undoubtedly exhausted and her mind on her children, she looked gorgeous. Loved the way PC looked after Doria (wish she had had a friend with her though). The choir and cellist were amazing, preacher did go on for too long yes, my highlight was Zara Philip's face. ... she made me howl with laughter!

goodbyestranger - Yes, people are fallible. Let's hope God is more forgiving than people are, eh?

yorkshireyummymummy "It’s a solemn dignified occasion and MOST people at weddings try to look appropriate."
I personally do not think staring at the floor or at a programme non-stop without once looking up during the vows is not only inappropriate, but very rude. The point the op is making is that it was not appropriate behaviour from the RF, and I agree. So perhaps your idea of appropriate differs from the op and myself. One doesn't need to clap, cheer or dance for joy, but one should be at least looking at the couple. That, would be appropriate. After all, they are supposedly there to witness the nuptials, not store at the floor, their lap, or their programme.

I think a lot of people look down during solemn events; and the vows are solemn. It's how people sit when they are thinking or reflecting on the words, maybe about their own service if married and their own relationships with a range of people. Not everyone stares at the couple getting married at these times at all, ime.

I think they looked fine. Weddings are boring, sermons are long. Imagine being on TV - such an intimate part of your life (not for the DofSussex) but for harry, who hates the press already. Cut them some slack.

I'm sure Kate's mind was on her boobs. .

My theory is that considering Kate left baby Louis with the nanny, that she was probably thinking “when is this going to end....my boobs will explode if I don’t get to that baby soon” and that was the reason for the look on her face

And the Queen definitely has resting bitch face

They all looked fine stop with the mean comments. Most weddings you are looking directly st the couple. The royals were not. Perfectly sensible to look down I think

didofido if God was that forgiving about adultery then presumably he'd have ok'd people getting re-married in church after divorce before 2002 because He's had some while to think about it. Even now it's only permitted in 'exceptional circumstances' (which presumably applied to Meghan).

I have to say I'm not bothered about adultery, but am quite able to see there might be some discomfort during the wedding, given the history of most of the assembled.

I think it's really difficult to keep a posed face for so long so understand why people look down, the media can't then lock on and give one or two a hard time for doing the wrong face pose! Though it did look like prince Andrew was asleep!

I do feel for Kate so soon after birth, I was still in my dressing gown, heavily bleeding and Uncomfy all the time (tho I had sections) so she did well not to be snoring imo! Though I was a bit shocked it looked like she had a white coat dress on!

The preacher from the US was actually very different and quite refreshing albeit he said 'let's get you folks married' or something similar st some point then spent another 15 minutes harping in about fire! Hilarious but I did like that bit!

Fuck knows why anyone invites Victoria Beckham to their wedding only to have her miserable mug bringing down the mood! What's she bloody like!

Ffs, it's people like some of you on here that reminds me why I've moreorless cut out my toxic sil from my life. Take her to any event and she'll find fault with something. It's depressing and exhausting.

Jeez, just leave Victoria Beckham alone! She's says several times before that she doesn't like her smile and feels self-conscious. She comes across in interviews as having quite a dry sense of humour so she probably isn't miserable at all!

On the subject of disinterested / uninterested - I'm fully aware that they are considered acceptable synonyms but the nuance in meaning can be pretty useful, and it's a good example of the richness of the English vocabulary enabling very precise meaning. You can have a clear interest in something whilst remaining totally uninterested in it, and vice versa.

I didn't get to watch the whole properly do I just watched the highlights. The preacher was fine I thought. Yes he went on a bit but he preached with passion and conviction. The Queen is the Head of the Anglican church in this country. The C of E is dying on its arse and being replaced by evangelical churches like these. The side eyes and sniggering was disrespectful and rude.

If people are interested in seeing the whole thing then you'll need to track it down on YouTube or the iPlayer. I only caught the sermon and the vows on the live coverage and I when I watched the highlights later it was clear that they had edited the sermon down, and cut out the 'reaction shots' from the RF. It is worth pointing out that Rev. Curry isn't an evangelical - he is the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church, which is part of the Anglican communion, just like the C of E. FWIW I loved the sermon but having had some serious fits of Church Giggles at really inappropriate moments in the past I do have some sympathy with the royals!

The Queen is pretty well used to American evangelicals, of course, having been an admirer and a friend of the Rev Billy Graham before he died.

I've been to weddings in a church like this on many occasions (although no where near as large as this one). The sound is pretty crap, and you really can't hear what is being said very well, so most people would usually follow along with the order of service. Add in that most of those people there were older, it's not surprising they were reading along if they wanted to actually know what was being said. It's also pretty uncomfortable to twist your head to watch the front, and you generally need to sit forward to see properly anyway, which leads to the person next to you leaning forward, then the person next to them leaning forward, and so on, and it's just weird to stare at the people across from you. I saw nothing at all unusual about their behaviour, and I think people are looking for fault.

Kate was probably thinking 'I wonder what bullshit people on MN are going to be posting about all this tomorrow?'.

Kate was probably thinking 'I wonder what bullshit people on MN are going to be posting about all this tomorrow?'

^This.

Overlaying assumptions on to a few snatched camera angles is more revealing about the writers then the objects

God I'm really no royalist but it's quite an eye opener seeing how people like to pick anything apart and find negativity in what was actually a lovely occasion.

Yep.

That and the crass racism. Vile.

Anyone else think Prince Charles looked unwell/ fragile?

Yes I did; in fact I've often thought so during his recent appearances

Obviously (and quite rightly) I can't possible know, but looking at his purplish complexion and swollen fingers makes me wonder if he has blood pressure issues

I think he has arthritis in his hands, that’s why his fingers are swollen.

Ink Charles was off signing the register when the cellist was playing iirc?

I'd completely forgotten about Billy Graham and The Queen. Yes of course she's heard that kind of preaching before. He's just died too so it might have reminded her of him. To be honest if the RF with all their training and a lifetime of looking interested in cutting ribbons and opening curtains on plaques can't show respect in church it says more about them than it does about anything else.

I imagined my boys being given the responsibility of holding the train, wrapping it round their heads or tripping over it or something. I would be a nervous wreck. I wonder what they were bribed with

It's here scary at 7:50

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g5bNjRvjCds

I know it's nothing much, but combined with the side-eyes and smirks from various royals throughout the service, it seems a bit impolite.

Noticing people's behaviour when they know they are on TV doesn't mean you're criticising the event itself or the couple. Rather, it's feeling that the smirking is making fun unfairly of the couple's choices, especially those which came more from the bride's culture than theirs.

I loved the dress, the horses and carriage, the variety of music, the genuine emotion etc. I also thought Zara looked amazed and rather admiring of the preacher, rather than horrified.

The one thing I was a bit surprised at was Harry's ex being at the wedding. Chelsy Davy was there wasn't she? Dunno if any of the others were there though, but how many people would invite an ex to their wedding? I wouldn't want that, they are exs for a reason and if no children are involved, what's the point? Could understand if they have kids together, but they don't.

They have never said a word out of place about him and I believe Chelsey and he are still friends. I think it's lovely he invited them. They weren't acrimonious splits, I think it acknowledges that they played an important part in his life.