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to ask your thoughts on organ denation

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UnicornShapedCloud · 16/05/2018 20:44

I have been thinking alot recently about organ donation after watching a programme about it.

I have really mixed feelings about it,

Whats your views on donating your own or your DC organs after death?

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siwel123 · 17/05/2018 18:10

I think we can all agree organ donation is an amazing gift that many of us support. However many people don't and that is fine because it is their body or family members body and they do what they think is right.

Let's not blame and call each other names, let's spread the word that organ donation is an amazing thing that can save lives but not everyone agrees with it and that is fine as we live in a free country.

CaliforniaDream · 17/05/2018 18:10

which you liken people who don't donate to criminals. That's insulting and low.

I also can't fathom where you got this idea when I haven't mentioned criminality even once and have made clear in more than one post that I think people have the right to decide whether to donate their own organs. I don't think anyone should be compelled to be a donor. Everyone should have the right to opt out.

You seem to keep misunderstanding that what I am saying is that family members shouldn't be able to override the decision made by the deceased - whether that decision was for or against donation.

expatinscotland · 17/05/2018 18:11

'I don't think you're in any position to make judgments about me when you've so blithely discounted my own experiences and been so dismissive of my grief. '

Just like the way you have dismissed other bereaved people who might not agree with you by likening them to criminals. Oh, the irony! Pot.Kettle.Black. I haven't misunderstood at all, I just find your language and judgement of bereaved people utterly insulting and disgusting. That's the difference, dear.

expatinscotland · 17/05/2018 18:14

'signing their death warrants' 'death row' 'allowing people to die' but that's not highly judgemental language likening people to criminals. Not misunderstanding you at all, I construe your views to be beyond the pale.

siwel123 · 17/05/2018 18:14

Ok @California. And @expat.
I know this is an emotional topic and I'm sorry for both your losses and struggles and traumatic experiences you have gone through Flowers.
But this is taking away from the point of the thread which is to raise awareness of organ donation.

expatinscotland · 17/05/2018 18:16

'But this is taking away from the point of the thread which is to raise awareness of organ donation'

You are not a moderator. And the OP specifically asks for views on it and did not state that she started the thread to raise awareness of organ donation Hmm

siwel123 · 17/05/2018 18:22

Well I'm sorry for causing offence.
I realise I'm not a moderator Hmm and never told you to stop discussing it if you want.
But two grown ups going throat to throat at each other over multiple posts is over shadowing all the amazing stories of organ donation that will raise awareness.
Sorry for any offence causes Flowers

expatinscotland · 17/05/2018 18:24

Oh, please, it in no way overshadows anything. Hmm The thread's intention was not to raise awareness. Everyone is aware that one can donate one's organs.

Turnocks34 · 17/05/2018 18:25

When I’m dead my organs are free for anyone who Needs them. I was a bit weird about my eyes for a while but have gotten over that now.

I would also donate both of my children’s organs if I was ever unfortunate enough to be face with that terrible choice.

OutsideContextProblem · 17/05/2018 18:25

Kidney transplants are significantly cheaper than dialysis over a few years frenchfancy. And corneal transplants are a terribly cheap way to turn a blind person into a sighted person with associated economic benefits.

UnicornRainbowColours · 17/05/2018 18:26

I wont need them so I’m happy to give them to ppl who do.

siwel123 · 17/05/2018 18:28

Ok @expat. That is your opinion and I have mine. Carry on as you were.

Dobbythesockelf · 17/05/2018 18:29

My friends dad is waiting for a transplant. He needs a kidney, neither of his work properly and he has dialysis a couple of times a week. He has no idea if he will make it to a kidney transplant. In the last year he has had a heart attack and a bout of pneumonia that hospitalised him for 6 weeks. He isn't old by anyone's standards he is in his early 60's. His life is literally in other people's hands. I hope he gets a transplant but how long is a piece of string?
I have been on the register since I was a teenager after losing a friend suddenly who's organs were used. Sadly when my grandparents died none of their organs were usable. I have told my dh so he knows my wishes but as I'm in Wales it's a little bit different for me.

OutComeTheWolves · 17/05/2018 18:39

I think the only thing you need to consider had already been addressed by other posters.
If you or a loved one needed it, would you accept someone's organs.
If you've answered yes to that question, then you should donate yours when the time comes.

CaliforniaDream · 17/05/2018 18:49

@expatinscotland it's clear to me that your respect and compassion only extends as far as those who agree with you. You're willing to dismiss, mock and patronise those who don't. You're entitled to do so, but I'm not engaging with you anymore when it's clear that you are both needlessly hostile and deeply thoughtless.

expatinscotland · 17/05/2018 18:50

'it's clear to me that your respect and compassion only extends as far as those who agree with you. You're willing to dismiss, mock and patronise those who don't. You're entitled to do so, but I'm not engaging with you anymore when it's clear that you are both needlessly hostile and deeply thoughtless.'

Oh, the irony! Pot.kettle.black. Off you go then.

HeckyPeck · 17/05/2018 18:55

If there is an afterlife, I'd be absolutely furious if my NOK overrode my wishes and didn't allow organ donation. It's my body so I should get final say in how it's used.

NOKs can't override your will. Why am I able to choose what happens to my money but not my own body?

britnay · 17/05/2018 18:55

I've always intended to donate my organs, and my family know this. But this thread has made me register as an organ donor online now and I'll be carrying an organ donor card soon :)

CaliforniaDream · 17/05/2018 18:56

NOKs can't override your will. Why am I able to choose what happens to my money but not my own body

This!!!

Teateaandmoretea · 17/05/2018 19:16

But two grown ups going throat to throat at each other over multiple posts is over shadowing all the amazing stories of organ donation that will raise awareness.

Amazing stories of organ donation Confused. Erm I see it as 'tragic stories of organ donation' but as you are. It would be a lot more amazing if the donors were still alive. I agree with expat. I have been a close relative and donated organs. It certainly wasn't 'amazing'.

Teateaandmoretea · 17/05/2018 19:17

California do you think your relatives would override you then?

DrunkUnicorn · 17/05/2018 19:18

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CaliforniaDream · 17/05/2018 19:24

@Teateaandmoretea no, I think they would respect my wishes. As it happens they all support organ donation too, but if they didn't I would be speaking about it with them now so that they understood how incredibly important it is to me. And in an ideal situation even if they did want to override my wishes, they wouldn't be entitled to under the law.

siwel123 · 17/05/2018 19:27

there has been amazing stories of organ donation and the affect of them, so Hmm. Many posters have said they wouldn't be aive or people wouldn't be able without the organ donations and i think that is pretty fucking amazing.

BigPinkBall · 17/05/2018 19:27

NOKs can't override your will. Why am I able to choose what happens to my money but not my own body?

Actually the beneficiaries to your will can override it if they all agree, it’s called a deed of variation.

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