Do you lie about kids ages for free entry?

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My DS turned two last weekend. We bought advance tickets for an adventure farm on Saturday. Going along with a friend who has a 4 year old and a DD who is 3 months older than DS.

It's free for under 2's and £11 for everyone else. I paid online and bought us all tickets including my DS and her DD, and let my friend know. She is now furious with me as I have apparently wasted £22 by paying for my DS and her DD. She says its normal not to pay for about a year after the cut off, and was shocked that I paid. TBH it didn't cross my mind when booking, but thinking about it they would never know. WIBU?

lying to get in or not could be the difference between going to an amusement park or a park

shoplifting could be the difference between being able to walk around with a Chanel handbag and one from George at Asda

sneaking into Glastonbury could be the difference between seeing the bands and not

doing a dine and dash could be the difference between having a nice meal out and having to cook at home

I could go on. It's pretty funny when applied to other situations!

I don't, mainly because I feel physically uncomfortable and tense if I lie or cheat in any way. I don't have a problem if other people do it, I just don't want to do so myself!

The only thing that really boils my piss is when people blatantly ignore the height/age restrictions on soft play etc for toddlers and allow their gigantic seven-year-old to rampage through an area meant for four-years-old and under, trampling the preschoolers underfoot as they go.

This mentality baffles me! So go to the park. Don't choose to go somewhere you can't afford and show your kids it's fine to lie to get something you're not otherwise entitled to

Yeah poor kids, fuck off ever wanting to go anywhere but the fucking park, you entitled little shits! Zoos and stuff are only for the kids with better parents with yours, who have money!
You're not entitled to have a life like our kids.

ITs your mentality that baffles me.

Yeah poor kids, fuck off ever wanting to go anywhere but the fucking park, you entitled little shits! Zoos and stuff are only for the kids with better parents with yours, who have money!
You're not entitled to have a life like our kids.

You haven't a clue what this discussion is about, have you?

If you think morals are only for kids whose parents have more money, I feel genuinely sad for you.

If your child has just turned 2 then I agree that you were stupid to pay. But to each their own.

Yeah poor kids, fuck off ever wanting to go anywhere but the fucking park, you entitled little shits! Zoos and stuff are only for the kids with better parents with yours, who have money!
You're not entitled to have a life like our kids.

Some kids have more than others. Some live in mansions, go to Disneyland three times a year and wear designer clothes from top to toe. Just because some child somewhere had more material things and access to more experiences doesn't mean that my children should automatically be entitled to the same. Nor does it mean I am a worse parent for not being able to afford to give them all of this stuff.

We are not talking about meeting children's basic needs or providing them with some form of enrichment. We are talking specifically about the luxury of attending paid attractions. Yes it is a luxury and like most luxuries, they cannot be equally accessible to everybody all the time. You can't steal, defraud and act dishonestly just because you're suffering a bit of FOMO on your child's behalf.

Yes I do

Yeah poor kids, fuck off ever wanting to go anywhere but the fucking park, you entitled little shits! Zoos and stuff are only for the kids with better parents with yours, who have money! You're not entitled to have a life like our kids.

Yep. That's totally what this thread is about. Really nailed it.

You haven't a clue what this discussion is about, have you?

you didn't read the post I was responding to, did you?
Try harder if you're struggling to follow how a thread moves on.

We did it at a child's farm. DS had turned 2 just the week before. It was either free or $12 (that should be pounds but my keyboard is having none of it). I knew he'd be asleep for most of it anyway, and he was (wasn't our choice to go).

Used to do it pretty regularly on the train.

Get an under 16 ticket into town then go to the pub.

I did it till I was about 20, but I'm very short (and was still spotty at 20) and was never questioned, especially if it was early evening rather than later at night.

Yep definitely if you can get away with it. Entry charges for these things are far too extortionate anyway, especially for families.

I did it at Center Parcs. DS was 2 and 10 months when we went and I selected a one bedroom villa as that was all we could afford, he was still sleeping in a cot at home and we brought one of those little blow up beds for him to sleep on at the foot of our bed. No way were we going to pay an extra £400 ish to have a two bedroom villa just because he wasn’t under two!

I hate dishonesty. If I'm under charged for something I give it back. I think lying about your child's age to avoid having to pay is wrong. My conscience wouldn't allow it...

*if I'm under charged for something I tell the person.

I have so much more respect for the people who say 'I know it is lying and essentially stealing by not paying the requested price for the service I am receiving and I am happy to acknowledge it is lying and stealing'
than all this self delusion that it is 'right' because the businesses charge too much (and implying that somehow they force you to go there, or you have no choice but to go there) or that because other people can afford to go to the attraction, you with less income are equally entitled to go, because actually everyone is entitled to the same of everything and if you can't pay for it, it's fine to just steal it. Or their kid will be asleep so not benefit from the attraction so why pay, or lots of people do it so it's okay, or paying full price or saying you should is just moralising and preachy.

If you have decided to defraud businesses of the price they choose to charge, just acknowledge that's what you are doing.

Yes, I would do this and have in the last when the children were small. Most people i know would do this if it doesn't look too obvious. I'm really surprised there are so many prim and proper people on here! It's not like we are going somewhere for free, are still paying full adult prices and often 1 child price.

Totally agree with your post ChocolateWombat. The whole 'it's too extortionate anyway', well don't go?

Mother, do you think it's prim and proper not to fare dodge on trains or to eschew shoplifting for something you can't afford?

The whole 'it's too extortionate anyway', well don't go?

But everything is overpriced. Should we not do anything?

Or are poorer people not allowed to want to do what the richer kids get to do? Is that too entitled is it?

Surely if something is too expensive, you save up and do it as a special treat? I'm sure most people have things that are within their budget, and things that aren't - I know I do - and if I want something that's out of my budget, I either do without, or I save up a bit longer, and treat myself. I don't use it as a reason to be dishonest.

I wonder how this people with such black or white morals manage everyday life. Do they never ever park illegally and if they do and aren't fined they phone the council to offer to pay the fine? Do they never drop litter by mistake and don't pick it up because it flew away? I know I am extrapolating but some people are almost asking for death penalty for people that extend, for a few months, the entitlement their children have. Come on people is not the same as shop lifting.

correct on all fronts. i dont drop litter, i dont park illegally. one is dirty and the other selfish.

found a wrapper tucked into the slats of a bench today. a bench with a litte r bin next to it. clearly a child learning to be filthy from parents such as some on here.

Very strange examples from Singing Most people don't illegally park unless an emergency, and most people try not to litter (yes, they may accidentally drop something that blows away).

And yes, it is pretty much the same as shoplifting. Both are intent to gain something that you are meant to pay for by just taking.

Many years ago when I was about 16/17, I'd be dolled up to the nines to get into the pubs but would get on the bus to take me there and ask for a half fare....