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To ask for your comebacks to a conspiracy theorist?

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BeigeisthenewOrange · 13/05/2018 21:31

I know someone who believes in lots of conspiracy theories. I see this person almost every day, and it's not easy to just ignore them. I'm crap at arguing/debating, so I tend to get panicky when they tell me all their beliefs and don't have any counter arguments. Or I try to but they come back with more 'proof'.

I don't believe everything is as it seems in the world, for example I think the government and the media are colluding possibly to gradually make the NHS look worse and worse so that we end up scrapping it and having only private healthcare. Plus things like the way the disabled are treated in this country. So am not totally 'the other way'. I stress though that these are only 'possibles' in my mind and I don't blindly believe that!

I'd like to be able to hold my own in our conversations, if anyone has any ideas I'd be grateful.

Some of her current beliefs:

  • There are only chem trails in the sky, put there by the government to poison us.
  • All vaccinations cause autism.
  • Autism never used to exist, the government want children to have it so they are easily controlled.
  • ISIS don't exist and every single terrorist attack is performed by actors.
  • Any medication we take is because the 'Big Pharma' want us all hooked on everything, the GPs get back handers and want us on as much meds as possible. Every single medication is making us more ill which they want.
  • The entire Royal Family are corrupt in the most awful ways. I won't go into details.
  • Everything David Icke says is gospel.

These are just a few. If you're wondering why I care or can't just walk away it's because I do like this woman and we do have a real laugh a lot of the time, sometimes though I get frustrated by her extreme beliefs, especially when she brings my health into it and says my GP wants to poison me. I'd like to be able to discredit some of this in a clever way.

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Carolynnnna · 14/05/2018 20:16

You can't—it's like trying to convince a religious person that God doesn't exist.

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 14/05/2018 20:17

especially when she brings my health into it and says my GP wants to poison me
The really difficult thing with this sort of barmy is that there is occasionally the one case that they then think proves the point (Harold Shipman)
You could try shutting it down by telling her you think she is totally bonkers and see if she leaves it there.

DwangelaForever · 14/05/2018 23:22

@OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow your BIL and his DC are absolutely correct Grin

BlackForestCake · 14/05/2018 23:51

Feed her back even wackier theories that you've made up.

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 15/05/2018 16:44

Dwangela Hmm nah mate. 😏

LRH1983 · 18/05/2018 07:15

smacks head against wall

Kursk even if "Big Pharma" (I often wonder if people who bang on about "Big Pharma" even really know what that means) does want us all to be ill, it doesn't mean they actively do anything to make that the case. They aren't allowed to sell drugs unless they have been proven to work, so....the whole idea is kind of moot.

Oh, and no- they don't want us to be ill. Pharma companies are not single entities, they are made up of real people with families and feelings and illnesses of their own. They want to treat and cure, even if it's good for the shareholders to have "customers like

rosylea · 18/05/2018 22:35

There's no "wackier theory" than believing the government is telling us the truth and that everything is how it seems. Whacky thinking indeed!

passmetheloppers · 19/05/2018 01:10

The real conspiracy, of course, is that all these conspiracy theories have been deliberately invented to keep everyone occupied and divert their attention from what's really going on...

Laserbird16 · 19/05/2018 04:46

You work with her, I'd go with Wolfiefan's suggestions followed by walking off.

My husband's uncle is an utter bore and goes on and on about absolute rubbish. I tried so hard to be polite but he's not very polite taking over the conversation with drivel so I do now say 'we were talking about x and not the moon landings being faked, now MIL as you were saying...' and pointedly going back on track. Getting up and leaving him talking to my empty chair when I just couldn't take it anymore, doesn't stop him but At least I don't have to endure his droning on.

rosylea · 19/05/2018 05:56

I prefer people to walk away from me so I don't have to listen to their brainwashed sheeple drivel.

Waggingmyginger · 19/05/2018 06:19

rosylea drivelnsuch ascribe your sourcesv/ evidence that is not tube based? Yeah. Critical thinking is probably best to walk away from in these cases. Confused

Tiredemma · 19/05/2018 06:27

Every person I know who is a conspiracy theorist also smoke lots of weed.

TheFreshPrincess0fBelair · 19/05/2018 07:24

Has she heard of the theory that fruit is actually alive? Each grape is an actual person with a soul.
Suggest she researches that a bit more - if she can’t find any info that’s because the government try to cover it up.
Each time she talks about her theories talk about how strawberries may take over the world.

TheFreshPrincess0fBelair · 19/05/2018 07:40

You could also pick up a nearby melon and rub it on your face and say shhhhhh to it.

rosylea · 19/05/2018 09:18

Baaaaa, baaaaaa

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