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AIBU?

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Replacement for my job getting paid more

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MrsCharlesDarwin · 12/05/2018 18:20

I resigned from my job as it’s been really challenging as a role and also getting things done at home.
I was asked to stay on as a favour until the new replacement was found - will be about 3 months in all after the 1 month notice period.
I was on 3 days per week. I’ve now seen my job is being advertised as 4 days per week (they wanted to do full time but didn’t have budget) and on the next pay grade up (£4000 more pa).
The job description has not changed. Duties are the same.
They are asking for someone with line management and experience which they didn’t do when they recruited me, but I had to line manage anyway and hated it.
Aibu to either a) be pissed off and ask for backdated pay as at the rate they clearly think the role as well as the next 3 months to be paid at increased rate is, or b) be pissed off and ask for the increased pay going forward for the next 2 months o so, or c) just walk away?

OP posts:

ChasedByBees · 14/05/2018 08:41

A you can’t do (or you could try but it won’t work)
B you could aim for.
C - There’s nothing wrong with sticking to the contractual notice period if you’re not happy.

blueshoes · 14/05/2018 09:13

OP: And would have continued to be asked to do it unless I resigned.

Did your employer actually say that? Did you ask for a raise, higher level grade and got refused. Or are you just assuming this because your employer did not voluntarily offer more.

Employers don't offer more to incumbent employees unless they ask for it. That is the sad fact and if you expect differently, you are not living in the real world.

OreoMini · 14/05/2018 09:16

Just leave.

lhastingsmua · 14/05/2018 09:54

I can see why you’re annoyed but I definitely don’t think they will offer you back pay, or the increased pay for your remaining time there unfortunately.

It’s shit but there’s nothing much you can do. If you bring it up there’s a high chance that they would refuse, give reasons as to why the replacement is more qualified etc, or generally be unaccommodating as you’re about to leave and they have no reason to try to convince you to stay at this point. They might say that the role has been restructured and they expect established management experience etc and you won’t really be able to refute that.

I mean you could bring it up as ‘if I had an increased pay/promotion, I would have stayed’, but you don’t want to continue to work there anyway so there’s no point.

blueshoes · 14/05/2018 10:06

Be careful about asking for back pay as there is a risk that you might hear something from your manager you'd rather not.

If they were minded to be difficult, the obvious answer they will give is that they realised the role needs to be performed at a higher level and you were not performing or ready to perform at that level. In other words, they would not have offered you the role at the higher grade anyway and hence, any discussion of back pay is irrelevant.

Just a thought to bear in mind. I believe you have discounted this route anyway.

Whatshallidonowpeople · 14/05/2018 10:07

Ask for the back pay and come back and tell us what happens. I could do with a.good laugh
Companies always have to pay more to recruit. That's life.

BoneyBackJefferson · 14/05/2018 18:27

MrsCharlesDarwin

So why didn't you ask for more money instead of resigning?

Eastcoastmost · 14/05/2018 18:31

Walk away and they’ll be begging you to come back as a consultant if you’re the only one who knows how things work. Then you can charge what you like...

SandyY2K · 14/05/2018 18:53

The new JD mentions it, apart from that the JD is the same

That's the difference then. You should have negotiated more money when they asked this in the interview.

That's a really big thing to leave off the JD and I imagine that's why the job is now a higher grade, because it's gone through the process of a job evaluation and line management being increased responsibility would push the grade up.

Honestly speaking...they were wrong to have you performing a significant task like that when it wasn't in the JD.

If it was me I'd be pissed off and take it further, but only because I know how it works and it wouldn't cost me anything to challenge it.

Part of my role is evaluating JDs to determine the grade. Evaluation is important for fairness and they've not been fair to you. People pull a fast one on you when you are either young or inexperienced and don't know your rights/the law.

It comes down to how much energy you have to challenge it. If I wasn't challenging it, I wouldn't do them the favour of staying on to train or handover.

Is there a HR department?

channingtatumspecs · 15/05/2018 03:27

OP I’ve only been in post for 6 months, they’ve just actually decided it’s a much harder job than they thought.
A bit of a drip feed tbh!
Honestly doesn't sound like you approached anyone with concerns or asked for higher pay / pay grade and now you've resigned I don't see how you have any leverage. It might be hurtful but they've clearly re-evaluated the requirements and scope of the role having lost you pretty quickly so it's not really personal. I'll also say again if they wanted to keep you they would have tried but have obviously also decided you're not a good fit. That's not to demean you or your skills but just to say (as you said yourself) this role isn't a good fit.
I'll also say I wouldn't stay over your notice you'd only be doing it to help them and don't owe them anything beyond your notice
Cut your losses and see it as a bad choice on your side as well as theirs and go on to find a great role that works for you and makes you happy

seventh · 15/05/2018 04:42

If I hadn’t resigned they’d have left me on 3 days and the lower pay grade for the exact same job.

But instead of resigning you could have asked for a pay rise to stay

seventh · 15/05/2018 04:47

They do want more experience clearly, but the job is the SAME and they were happy to keep me on the same terms until I told them - it’s way too much work.....

And if you'd asked for a pay rise they might have given you one. You chose to resign. That was your choice. I really don't see how it's now the employers fault that they have taken on board your tacit suggestions and increased the pay

NoodlesLivesHere · 15/05/2018 05:04

Honestly if you have a new job lined up/don't need to work just walk on 24th May and don't turn back.

Even if they agree to pay you more for the handover period you'd still be in a job you hate, except now you'll be seriously resenting every minute you're there. Life is too short to be miserable because of others when it's avoidable.

Want2bSupermum · 15/05/2018 05:05

Take this as a lesson in knowing your worth and advocating for yourself. I'm aggressive with my pay because I'm not going to accept anyone underpaying me.

What has happened to you happened to me. I transferred over to the US and my line manager had to hire 3 people to cover the same work I did on my own. Never again have I let that happen to me.

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